What do conservative policy intellectuals think about climate change?

Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/

The interesting thing is that the insurance industry cannot afford to deny climate change.

On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/

From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.

On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 11:32:33 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/

From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.

Hey, you're on a roll. Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!
The deep end is just moments away.

On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 11:32:33 AM UTC-5, wsne... wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/

From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.

Hey, you're on a roll. Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!
The deep end is just moments away.

Rather than cast insults, show us how you are not in the category of "people who just don't want to do anything about it [climate change.]"

(Hint, your two Chevy Volts don't count.)

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:54:20 AM UTC-6, wrote:

(Hint, your two Chevy Volts don't count.)

How do you know he doesn't live in an area where the electricity comes from a
nuclear power plant or a hydroelectric dam?

John Savard

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 3:59:57 PM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:54:20 AM UTC-6, wrote:

(Hint, your two Chevy Volts don't count.)

How do you know he doesn't live in an area where the electricity comes from a
nuclear power plant or a hydroelectric dam?

John Savard

I get my power guaranteed from Byron nuclear plant as well as local wind turbines. People in this area get to choose. The Byron plant is very reliable, has been running for more than 30 years. I have friends that work there. I wish they would build more, with latest technology of course. Right now NatGas plants are cheaper to build and run, which is unfortunate, but economics rules.

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 4:59:57 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:54:20 AM UTC-6, wsne... wrote:

(Hint, your two Chevy Volts don't count.)

How do you know he doesn't live in an area where the electricity comes from a
nuclear power plant or a hydroelectric dam?

A large portion of the energy on the grid is still generated by fossil fuels and will continue to be almost indefinitely.

Any electricity he uses for his plugin cars is electricity unavailable for others to use. The utility companies must burn fossil fuels to make up for that.

His plugin cars are not carbon free. There is embedded carbon in their construction and maintenance, and in the power plants/windmills that power them, and in the roads and other infrastructure that they use.

The money he uses to buy the plugin cars came from an economy that is still dependent on fossil fuels, and if one has enough money to afford a plugin car, and to pay some premium for "green" electricity, then that additional income represents unnecessary carbon emissions that occurred elsewhere.

Using a plugin car as atonement for flying around in jets is a bit like a dieter adding a low-cal salad to her high-cal meal and still expecting to lose weight.

On 4/6/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 12:19:31 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Take a look:

http://grist.org/politics/what-do-co...limate-change/

From the beginning of the article:

".... people who just don't want to do anything about it."

That describes you perfectly. With your flights to Hawaii and Chile and your long treks to NEAF, while laden with useless luxury goods, you are the poster child for the hypocritical, warmingista movement.

You probably go through the express aisle with more than the max number of items too.


Can Climate Scientists Make A Difference by Not Flying?
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/c...s-flying-18864


Globally, air travel accounts for 2.5 percent of greenhouse gas
emissions. If air travel were a country, it would be roughly on par
with Germany in emissions. And if air travel by climate scientists
were a city, it would be a one-stoplight outpost.

In other words, climate scientists curtailing their air travel would
make a microscopic dent in reducing emissions, but a new paper argues
they should do it anyway, because their influence goes far beyond
numbers.

“It’s a credibility issue,” Corinne Le Quéré, a researcher at the
Tyndall Centre, said in an interview via Skype. “We’re trying to
support a change in culture.”

Le Quéré, who authored a recent paper on decarbonizing climate
research, starting with flying, said most climate scientists are
acutely aware of their carbon footprint but that flying has become
part of their routine, particularly for criss-crossing the globe in
connecting with colleagues at far-flung institutions.

Of course, it’s not only climate scientists who are flying more and
more each year. From 2005 to 2013, annual air travel grew from 2
billion from 3 billion passengers.

Had Le Quéré opted for an in-person interview about her work, the
round-trip flight from London to New York would have emitted 3.4 tons
of carbon dioxide (CO2), two and a half times the annual emissions of
the average person living in India.

While a few thousand scientists ditching their frequent flyer cards
is a drop in the carbon emissions bucket, Le Quéré argues that those
scientists carry a greater burden than the general public to consider
their own emissions. That’s because they’re acutely aware of the
risks climate change poses as well as the solutions needed.

“Their [climate scientists] actions may have limited discernible
influence in terms of 'bending the curve' on emissions, but their
efforts to 'walk the talk' have tremendous symbolic value,” he said.
“Moreover, because this has become such a politically charged and
high-stakes issue, their actions are scrutinized much more than those
who aren't studying the problem.”

I remind all readers that global warming is happening and that we
are all in this together. Make a difference by informing your friends,
neighbors and the public at large. Advocate for sustainable
communities in areas such as energy, water and food. Sustainable
communities.

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 1:05:33 PM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:

Can Climate Scientists Make A Difference by Not Flying?
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/c...s-flying-18864

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I remind all readers that global warming is happening and that we
are all in this together.

Thus far the warmingistas have provided practically NO evidence of that notion, based on their personal behaviors.

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:05:33 PM UTC+1, Sam Wormley wrote:

I remind all readers that global warming is happening and that we
are all in this together. Make a difference by informing your friends,
neighbors and the public at large.

The planet warms every time a location turns into solar radiation within each 24 hours and cools as the stars of the great celestial arena come into view as the planet turns back into the shadow of the Earth.

http://prairieecosystems.pbworks.com...0variation.jpg

In one of the bewildering mode of thinking the people of the planet have ever seen, not because of its complexity but that the error can be corrected so easily, you will insist the Earth turns 366 1/4 times within an orbital circumference which takes roughly 365 days 6 hours to complete.

"During one orbit around the Sun, Earth rotates about its own axis 366.26 times " Main Earth article Wikipedia

I went for a walk today down by the ancient Knowth monument where people marked the Equinox in a most spectacular light show over 5200 years ago. How magnificent those people were in contrast to the utter chaos of you and the everyone else here who can't manage to assign the proper proportion of rotations to an orbital circumference. In others words, not a single one of you could build that astronomical clock -

http://www.knowth.com/aerial/aerial-knowth.jpg


Tell your friend and family indeed !, what do you tell them what is behind the experience of a day ?. If you believe there are 366 1/4 rotations within an orbital circuit it is not going to be a single rotation of the planet.

This is where the real issue is.