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Old June 25th 14, 01:12 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html

Amazing!

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Old July 4th 14, 07:16 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Physicists prove the universe doesn't exist!!!

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:12:53 PM UTC+12, Double-A wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html



Amazing!



Double-A



The cosmos obviously exists. However, space and time as we conceive of it, cannot exist.

How can this be?

Well, the world is very likely to be two dimensional with two extra dimensions (space and time as we know it) arising out of the two dimensional structure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...lly-is-a-holo/

http://www.pma.caltech.edu/~physlab/...can1105-56.pdf
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Old July 4th 14, 12:22 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Physicists prove the universe doesn't exist!!!

On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:16:51 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:12:53 PM UTC+12, Double-A wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html








Amazing!








Double-A






The cosmos obviously exists. However, space and time as we conceive of it, cannot exist.



How can this be?



Well, the world is very likely to be two dimensional with two extra dimensions (space and time as we know it) arising out of the two dimensional structure.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY



http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...lly-is-a-holo/



http://www.pma.caltech.edu/~physlab/...can1105-56.pdf


Indeed, space and time making up our perceived 3rd dimension within our otherwise 2D existence.

There's certainly more than sufficient volumetric mass if our universe is only 94 GY diameter, and when it started out as something very small (say less than a couple light years diameter) its concentrated mass of perhaps 5e56 kg (initial m3 of Plank density of supposedly 5e96 kg) as expanding its physical radius at 'c' should have been impossible unless there was an ongoing aether/dark-matter flow inflating our universe (exactly as contributor mpc755 suggested).

I keep having to revise my estimate of the universe mass because, modern physics and science keeps discovering more itsy-bitsy items of mass. Even quantum entangled photons seem capable of representing mass of at least one electron, and as far as anyone knows there's no shortage of photons.



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Old July 9th 14, 05:28 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Physicists prove the universe doesn't exist!!!

On Friday, July 4, 2014 11:22:00 PM UTC+12, Brad Guth wrote:
On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:16:51 PM UTC-7, wrote:

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:12:53 PM UTC+12, Double-A wrote:




http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html
















Amazing!
















Double-A












The cosmos obviously exists. However, space and time as we conceive of it, cannot exist.








How can this be?








Well, the world is very likely to be two dimensional with two extra dimensions (space and time as we know it) arising out of the two dimensional structure.








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY








http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...lly-is-a-holo/








http://www.pma.caltech.edu/~physlab/...can1105-56.pdf




Indeed, space and time making up our perceived 3rd dimension within our otherwise 2D existence.



There's certainly more than sufficient volumetric mass if our universe is only 94 GY diameter, and when it started out as something very small (say less than a couple light years diameter) its concentrated mass of perhaps 5e56 kg (initial m3 of Plank density of supposedly 5e96 kg) as expanding its physical radius at 'c' should have been impossible unless there was an ongoing aether/dark-matter flow inflating our universe (exactly as contributor mpc755 suggested).



I keep having to revise my estimate of the universe mass because, modern physics and science keeps discovering more itsy-bitsy items of mass. Even quantum entangled photons seem capable of representing mass of at least one electron, and as far as anyone knows there's no shortage of photons.


http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...-source-1.html

This is consistent with Susskind's ideas that we exist in a holographic universe projected into the interior of a rather large black hole.

Black hole complementarity is a conjectured solution to the black hole information paradox, proposed by Leonard Susskind.

Hawking thinks information is lost in an evaporating black hole once it passes through the event horizon. This turns pure quantum states into mixed states. Susskind wondered if a complete theory of quantum gravity might be able to conserve information.

How is this possible if information can't escape the event horizon? Hawking radiation is ruled out as a carrier of the missing information. Information can't be "reflected" from the horizon according to Hawkins since there is nothing special about it.

Susskind proved that information is both reflected at the event horizon and passes through the event horizon and can't escape. No one can see both. Everything happens in a membrane hovering about a Planck length outside the event horizon.

Complementarity occurs in quantum mechanics of noncommuting observables, and Susskind showed that both observers are complementary in the quantum sense operating on the black hole membrane.

Observers stuck in the membrane see a holographic universe. New material dropping in increases the size of the universe, and gives rise to photons and particles appearing within that projected hologram - just like the observations we see.

Observers inside will see the point of entry of the information from the horizon. Observers outside the black hole will see the information being spread out uniformly over the entire stretched horizon before being re-radiated.

Baryon number is violated for the internal observer. But only at very small scales compared to the life of the particle involved. Since the proton has a very long lifetime the scale for matter we see can extend to trillions of years. Beyond that, time breaks down as particles spontaneously disappear when they are re-radiated by the black hole surface.


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Old July 9th 14, 02:59 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Physicists prove the universe doesn't exist!!!

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:28:48 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, July 4, 2014 11:22:00 PM UTC+12, Brad Guth wrote:

On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:16:51 PM UTC-7, wrote:




On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:12:53 PM UTC+12, Double-A wrote:








http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html
































Amazing!
































Double-A
























The cosmos obviously exists. However, space and time as we conceive of it, cannot exist.
















How can this be?
















Well, the world is very likely to be two dimensional with two extra dimensions (space and time as we know it) arising out of the two dimensional structure.
















https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY
















http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...lly-is-a-holo/
















http://www.pma.caltech.edu/~physlab/...can1105-56.pdf








Indeed, space and time making up our perceived 3rd dimension within our otherwise 2D existence.








There's certainly more than sufficient volumetric mass if our universe is only 94 GY diameter, and when it started out as something very small (say less than a couple light years diameter) its concentrated mass of perhaps 5e56 kg (initial m3 of Plank density of supposedly 5e96 kg) as expanding its physical radius at 'c' should have been impossible unless there was an ongoing aether/dark-matter flow inflating our universe (exactly as contributor mpc755 suggested).








I keep having to revise my estimate of the universe mass because, modern physics and science keeps discovering more itsy-bitsy items of mass. Even quantum entangled photons seem capable of representing mass of at least one electron, and as far as anyone knows there's no shortage of photons.




http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...-source-1.html



This is consistent with Susskind's ideas that we exist in a holographic universe projected into the interior of a rather large black hole.



Black hole complementarity is a conjectured solution to the black hole information paradox, proposed by Leonard Susskind.



Hawking thinks information is lost in an evaporating black hole once it passes through the event horizon. This turns pure quantum states into mixed states. Susskind wondered if a complete theory of quantum gravity might be able to conserve information.



How is this possible if information can't escape the event horizon? Hawking radiation is ruled out as a carrier of the missing information. Information can't be "reflected" from the horizon according to Hawkins since there is nothing special about it.



Susskind proved that information is both reflected at the event horizon and passes through the event horizon and can't escape. No one can see both. Everything happens in a membrane hovering about a Planck length outside the event horizon.



Complementarity occurs in quantum mechanics of noncommuting observables, and Susskind showed that both observers are complementary in the quantum sense operating on the black hole membrane.



Observers stuck in the membrane see a holographic universe. New material dropping in increases the size of the universe, and gives rise to photons and particles appearing within that projected hologram - just like the observations we see.



Observers inside will see the point of entry of the information from the horizon. Observers outside the black hole will see the information being spread out uniformly over the entire stretched horizon before being re-radiated.



Baryon number is violated for the internal observer. But only at very small scales compared to the life of the particle involved. Since the proton has a very long lifetime the scale for matter we see can extend to trillions of years. Beyond that, time breaks down as particles spontaneously disappear when they are re-radiated by the black hole surface.


The notion of BH wormholes of a cosmic computer, being where infinite data gets stored and transferred on demand, at least would make their existence extremely functional for accommodating our multi-trillion year old protons (essentially immortal matter) and for storing the vast amount of cosmic intelligence.


If each lifeform within this universe created a terabyte of data per hour, we'd run ourselves out of atoms for storing that much data.
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Old July 4th 14, 12:36 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Physicists prove the universe doesn't exist!!!

On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:12:53 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html


Amazing!

Double-A


Perhaps there's a molecular rebirth bang every 100 GY. When our universe stops expanding by way of our best science detecting such, we will no longer exist.

If quantum entanglement is instantaneous, perhaps there's no telling how many universes are out there, or how often they get recycled.

In other words, Bert and a few others of the multiverse interpretations could have been right all along.

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Old July 4th 14, 04:25 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" wrote in message
...

http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html

Amazing!

Double-A


*** Yet we are here, but are expected to believe that
it is a a figment of our imagination ... the Universe doesn't
really exist. And that comes as a big surprise to you ???
The same collection of babbling morons, under the
moniker of IPCC has been babbling about Climate Change,
or Global Warming and then Climate Disruption, yet, all
indication are it is a figment of their imagination.

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Old July 5th 14, 12:18 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Friday, July 4, 2014 8:25:47 AM UTC-7, Hägar wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

...



http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...20219618..html



Amazing!



Double-A





*** Yet we are here, but are expected to believe that

it is a a figment of our imagination ... the Universe doesn't

really exist. And that comes as a big surprise to you ???

The same collection of babbling morons, under the

moniker of IPCC has been babbling about Climate Change,

or Global Warming and then Climate Disruption, yet, all

indication are it is a figment of their imagination.


Actual objective science as to global ice volumes and a trillion extra tonnes of CO2 in the atmosphere (not to mention the trillions of tonnes of CO2 that recombined with surface water and making it acidic), obviously doesn't mean anything to those of your kind. Thereby no amount of independent science that supports and/or collaborates with other independent science is even offering a clue to those of your coal puking kind.
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Old July 5th 14, 11:13 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Physicists prove the universe doesn't exist!!!

On Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:18:10 AM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:
On Friday, July 4, 2014 8:25:47 AM UTC-7, Hägar wrote:

"Double-A" wrote in message




...








http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html








Amazing!








Double-A












*** Yet we are here, but are expected to believe that




it is a a figment of our imagination ... the Universe doesn't




really exist. And that comes as a big surprise to you ???




The same collection of babbling morons, under the




moniker of IPCC has been babbling about Climate Change,




or Global Warming and then Climate Disruption, yet, all




indication are it is a figment of their imagination.




Actual objective science as to global ice volumes and a trillion extra tonnes of CO2 in the atmosphere (not to mention the trillions of tonnes of CO2 that recombined with surface water and making it acidic), obviously doesn't mean anything to those of your kind. Thereby no amount of independent science that supports and/or collaborates with other independent science is even offering a clue to those of your coal puking kind.



The increasing acidity of the ocean water has led an abundance of jellyfish off Northern Australia. They love high acidity, and their stings are deadly!

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water!

Double-A


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Old July 6th 14, 12:25 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Physicists prove the universe doesn't exist!!!

On Saturday, July 5, 2014 3:13:56 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
On Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:18:10 AM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:

On Friday, July 4, 2014 8:25:47 AM UTC-7, Hägar wrote:




"Double-A" wrote in message








...
















http://news.yahoo.com/universe-shoul...220219618.html
















Amazing!
















Double-A
























*** Yet we are here, but are expected to believe that








it is a a figment of our imagination ... the Universe doesn't








really exist. And that comes as a big surprise to you ???








The same collection of babbling morons, under the








moniker of IPCC has been babbling about Climate Change,








or Global Warming and then Climate Disruption, yet, all








indication are it is a figment of their imagination.








Actual objective science as to global ice volumes and a trillion extra tonnes of CO2 in the atmosphere (not to mention the trillions of tonnes of CO2 that recombined with surface water and making it acidic), obviously doesn't mean anything to those of your kind. Thereby no amount of independent science that supports and/or collaborates with other independent science is even offering a clue to those of your coal puking kind.






The increasing acidity of the ocean water has led an abundance of jellyfish off Northern Australia. They love high acidity, and their stings are deadly!



Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water!



Double-A


A growing number of ocean dead-zones are populated with jellyfish.

If there's a trillion tonnes of CO2 added to the atmosphere, figure at least another couple trillion tonnes if not ten trillion that went into our oceans.

How many trillion tonnes of CO2 in addition to all those other mostly toxic elements that we humans contribute, can mother Earth and her frail biodiversity manage to safely deal with?

 




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