Russians screw up their Mars mission...AGAIN

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1111/08phobosgrunt/

What is it with these Ruskies? Phobos-Grunt was delayed for two years
because they couldn't finish it in time and now it still isn't working
properly! This is extremely embarrassing for Russia and Poetin and I'm
sure some of the scientists will be prosecuted as 'foreign agents with
the intent to cause embarrassment to Russia' or something to that
effect.

On Nov 9, 1:24*pm, Anonymous wrote:
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1111/08phobosgrunt/

What is it with these Ruskies? Phobos-Grunt was delayed for two years
because they couldn't finish it in time and now it still isn't working
properly! This is extremely embarrassing for Russia and Poetin and I'm
sure some of the scientists will be prosecuted as 'foreign agents with
the intent to cause embarrassment to Russia' or something to that
effect.

well the US just sent another exlorer with a known failing RTG at
launch.

so dont laugh too loud the next failure may be ours

On 10/11/2011 5:24 AM, Anonymous wrote:
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1111/08phobosgrunt/

What is it with these Ruskies? Phobos-Grunt was delayed for two years
because they couldn't finish it in time and now it still isn't working
properly! This is extremely embarrassing for Russia and Poetin and I'm
sure some of the scientists will be prosecuted as 'foreign agents with
the intent to cause embarrassment to Russia' or something to that
effect.



Anyone using a remailer, like you, is a coward.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1111/11phobosgrunt/

bad design low gain antenna cant communicate with earth, blocked by
stage that didnt seperate.....

so this fully fueled vehicle full of hydrazine will be returning
somewhere on earth......

imagine that coming down in a big city........


wonder if the us military will volunteer to destroy it to minimize the
risk.....

just how much of a hazard is this satellite? how much hydrazine would
make it to the ground?

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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bob haller wrote:

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1111/11phobosgrunt/

bad design low gain antenna cant communicate with earth, blocked by
stage that didnt seperate.....

so this fully fueled vehicle full of hydrazine will be returning
somewhere on earth......

imagine that coming down in a big city........


The sky is falling. THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!

It is a somewhat fair question. I mean we did use that as an excuse to
destroy USA 193 which only had about 450 kg of hydrazine fuel on it. This
has about 10x as much. So if one believes the reason for that, it's a valid
reason for this.


wonder if the us military will volunteer to destroy it to minimize the
risk.....


We can't. It doesn't belong to us.


Umm, BS Fred. We can certainly VOLUNTEER. Of course there's about zero
chance the Russians would accept. But nothing about us not owning it
prevents us from volunteering.



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wonder if the us military will volunteer to destroy it to minimize the
risk.....

We can't. *It doesn't belong to us.

Umm, BS Fred. *We can certainly VOLUNTEER. *Of course there's about zero
chance the Russians would accept. *But nothing about us not owning it
prevents us from volunteering.


perhaps russia will put on a show and destroy it themselves

perhaps russia will put on a show and destroy it themselves

That would be a neat trick, since I don't believe they have any
current capability.


well this is a excellent chance to find out if they can

"Greg \(Strider\) Moore" wrote:
Umm, BS Fred. We can certainly VOLUNTEER. Of course there's about
zero chance the Russians would accept. But nothing about us not
owning it prevents us from volunteering.

I suspect both the Russians and the Chinese would need to agree no?

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"Greg \(Strider\) Moore" wrote:
Umm, BS Fred. We can certainly VOLUNTEER. Of course there's about
zero chance the Russians would accept. But nothing about us not
owning it prevents us from volunteering.

I suspect both the Russians and the Chinese would need to agree no?

Are the Chinese somehow involved? If so I missed it.

Like I said, I doubt there's any chance the Russians would ever have agreed
in any event.



rick jones

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