Reduce the amount of electricity needed worldwide:)

Launch some big unfolding space mirrors to give some illumination to
populated areas national and world wide.

night driving would be safer, less electricity used since the
reflectors could provide at least a twilight illumination for many
working hours.

say real night from 11 PM to 5AM, at other times artifical
illumination.

I wonder if solar panels could generate power from a reflected source.

Note this would give NASA a real purpose

On Jul 11, 6:50*am, bob haller wrote:
Launch some big unfolding space mirrors to give some illumination to
populated areas national and world wide.

night driving would be safer, less electricity used since the
reflectors could provide at least a twilight illumination for many
working hours.

say real night from 11 PM to 5AM, at other times artifical
illumination.

I wonder if solar panels could generate power from a reflected source.

Note this would give NASA a real purpose

What could go wrong with this idea?
1. I like to see the stars.
2. Bright light in the middle of the night will almost
certainly mess with certain animals.
3. Get enough reflectors up and central control
can toast fair number of patches of ground as
means of death and destruction.

Note this would give NASA a real purpose

What could go wrong with this idea?
1. I like to see the stars.
2. Bright light in the middle of the night will almost
certainly mess with certain animals.
3. Get enough reflectors up and central control
can toast fair number of patches of ground as
means of death and destruction.

stars could still be seen during real night say 11 PM to 6 AM

A twilight might help a lot and could certinally ,make night driving
safer

safety controls would have to be triply redundant

On Jul 13, 4:59*am, bob haller wrote:
Note this would give NASA a real purpose

What could go wrong with this idea?
1. I like to see the stars.
2. Bright light in the middle of the night will almost
certainly mess with certain animals.
3. Get enough reflectors up and central control
can toast fair number of patches of ground as
means of death and destruction.

stars could still be seen during real night say 11 PM to 6 AM

A twilight might help a lot and could certinally ,make night driving
safer

safety controls would have to be triply redundant

Clearly, you've never seen a non-industrial sky.

When the Bars close also has an influence on driving safety.
A drunk is a drunk, day or night.

Control is control, just ask Omar. Riot and protest? Well
hit the light and get things really toasty for citizens/protesters/
subjects/
voters/illegal thinkers.

The stars come out when the sun has set; Provided the sky is clear and
the lights on the surface are dim enough...................Trig

On Jul 13, 3:23*pm, |"
wrote:
On Jul 13, 4:59*am, bob haller wrote:









Note this would give NASA a real purpose

What could go wrong with this idea?
1. I like to see the stars.
2. Bright light in the middle of the night will almost
certainly mess with certain animals.
3. Get enough reflectors up and central control
can toast fair number of patches of ground as
means of death and destruction.

stars could still be seen during real night say 11 PM to 6 AM

A twilight might help a lot and could certinally ,make night driving
safer

safety controls would have to be triply redundant

Clearly, you've never seen a non-industrial sky.

When the Bars close also has an influence on driving safety.
A drunk is a drunk, day or night.

Control is control, just ask Omar. Riot and protest? Well
hit the light and get things really toasty for citizens/protesters/
subjects/
voters/illegal thinkers.

The stars come out when the sun has set; Provided the sky is clear and
the lights on the surface are dim enough...................Trig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyHIOg5aHk

There is a solution.

Here is a paper I presented to OSTP at the White House in December
2004 when Saudi Arabia went off its $22 per barrel price cap.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24911642/R...P-EOP-Dec-2004

Here's the business plan around that;

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33089455/sunoco-2
http://www.scribd.com/doc/45658626/Sunval

And more testimony;

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21724016/T...leste-Chairman

Here's the deal; Each year a healthy economy needs (and grows 4% per
year);

In 1998;

5 billion tonnes coal - 112 exajoules
27 billion barrels of crude oil - 156 exajoules
65,000 tonnes uranium ore - 24 exajoules
84 trillion cubic feet of natural gas - 84 exajoules

376 exajoules per year.

With a healthy economy this would have grown at 4% per year to reach
626 exajoules per year by 2011 and there would be 45 billion barrels
of crude oil produced and

We haven't achieved that.

Which is why we're in an economic mess.

Made worse by the fact that the banksters have decided to loot the
economies of the industrial world before the collapse becomes apparent
while the governments they've installed set up a scientific control
grid to manage the inevitable die off.

So, here's the deal...

I make hydrogen from water and sunlight at $100 per ton. With that I
make oil from coal and hydrogen at $8.57 per barrel. That's it.

COAL CONVERSION
5 billion tons of coal + 417 million tons hydrogen -- 34 billion
barrels syncrude and requires 423 plants that produce 220,000 barrels
per day each from coal 32,362 tons of coal per day per facility.

HYDROGEN DEMAND

417 million tons of hydrogen - to convert coal to crude oil
469 million tons of hydrogen - to replace the shortfall in crude oil
783 million tons of hydrogen - to replace all the coal burned in
power plants.
168 million tons of hydrogen - to replace all the uranium ore in
power plants.
587 million tons of hydrogen - to replace all the natural gas in
power plants.

2,841 million tons of hydrogen - to replace all the coal, uranium,
natural gas.

HYDROGEN SOURCE

This requires 174,153 square kilometers of my solar collectors to meet
this need and restore the world to prosperity while retiring our
reliance on fossil fuels.

PRODUCTION CAPACITY

312 square kilometers per year per factory which requires a wafer fab
along with what amounts to a soda bottling plant with plastic
bottles.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20024194/P...rom-Mok-Report
http://www.scribd.com/doc/43547498/Mok-Capabilities

This requires 112 factories in operation to meet the area needs in
five years. There are around 80 wafer fabs being dropped every year,
and about 80 bottling plants being dropped every year. So, we can
acquire the facilities in 18 months, and take another 16 months to get
them operational.

So within 7 years we can solve this problem.

There is 250,000 sq km of abandoned mine lands in deserts in the USA.
There's also the Taklimakan desert in China, near the Tarim Basin
which is on the pipeline/rail line to the region.

So, the USA and China each, alone, could solve this problem in 8
years.

And take charge of world affairs.

FUNDING
The Chicago Mercantile Exchange has reported that 3 million energy
contracts get traded every day to support the origination of 74,000
contracts per day and the physical delivery of 74,000 contracts per
day at $106,000 per contract of 1,000 barrels at current prices.

A total of 75 contracts per facility is needed to support the
production of that facility in 7 years. So, for originating 31,725
contracts per day at today's prices raises sufficient money to meet
the need to build this supply chain and infrastructure.

80 wafer fabs
80 assembly plants
463 coal conversion plants
2,841 hydrogen production sites

Each hydrogen production site produces 1 million tons of hydrogen per
year at 61.3 sq km each.

Once successful there will be 4% to 8% growth in demand which
translates from 7,000 sq km to 14,000 sq km per year - which needs 22
to 44 of the 80 plants to support at full production levels at first.
In an additional 9 to 18 years, the demand rises to 44 plants at the
low end, and 88 plants at the high end. At that point 342,000 sq km
of collectors are needed.

At this point, we're using hydrogen on a large scale.

At this point, we begin orbiting satellites to beam IR laser energy to
the already installed terrestrial solar power which converts energy
with 98% efficiency at 1,000 nm.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35439593/S...-Satellite-GEO

With the ending of the Shuttle, and shutting down the Michoud
facility, the ET derived system is no longer viable.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30943696/ETDHLRLV
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31261680/Etdhlrlv-Addendum

A similar system that is Sea Dragon derived is then possible - this
being completed some 14 years after the start of the project, and 7
years after the completion of phase 1.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/45631474/S...rived-Launcher

Phase 2 is beaming energy from 3.5 million km above the Sun, to an
Earth orbiting reforming satellite that beams energy to terrestrial
receivers.

A 5 km diameter satellite operating at this distance from Sol
generates 220 billion watts on Earth. 118 satellites at this level
support the production of 5,700 million tons of hydrogen each year,
which is needed at this stage.

We are no ready to enter Phase 3 - beaming energy directly to end
users anywhere in the solar system, whether terrestrial or off-world,
whether mobile or stationary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAUkt2VPHI

Which includes homes anywhere, or even flying machines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzXwctPXT4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxV2FCUESh0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzG4PEureFg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAdj6vpYppA