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Old June 30th 11, 09:58 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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Default What's going on with the Sun?

What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have
for the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

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Old June 30th 11, 10:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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Default What's going on with the Sun?

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have
for the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


And no mention that recent research indicates there is more going on with
the Sun's influence on the Earth's climate than just "radiative forcing".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/45982

"According to Svensmark, cosmic rays seed low-lying clouds that reflect
some of the Sun's radiation back into space, and the number of cosmic rays
reaching the Earth is dependent on the strength of the solar magnetic field."

"he latest experiment provides evidence for a major component of this theory -
how ionization enhances cloud formation."

One sentence in the first article Sam should read over and over until it
sinks into his aging, change terrified brain:

"Also, the Earth's climate is evidently a highly complicated system,
involving interconnected feedback systems, so it is difficult to
disentangle causes and effects."


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Old June 30th 11, 11:21 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar activity
could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story emerged after
three groups of researchers presented independent studies at the annual
meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American Astronomical
Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the new findings
really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for the climate
here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about one
tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


Earth's Global Warming is causing the Sun to get hotter by radiating more
heat back to the sun.


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Old July 1st 11, 07:52 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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"huhie" wrote in message
...

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for
the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


Earth's Global Warming is causing the Sun to get hotter by radiating more
heat back to the sun.

Shuuuush, don't give them ideas!


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Old July 1st 11, 04:09 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:21:13 -0500, "huhie"
wrote:


"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
.. .
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar activity
could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story emerged after
three groups of researchers presented independent studies at the annual
meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American Astronomical
Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the new findings
really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for the climate
here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about one
tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


Earth's Global Warming is causing the Sun to get hotter by radiating more
heat back to the sun.


ROTFL!! Nice idea, but nonsense! The earth is too small and too far
away to affect the sun.

Harry Merrick.
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Old July 1st 11, 05:35 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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Default What's going on with the Sun?

In article ,
Harry Merrick wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:21:13 -0500, "huhie"
wrote:


"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
.. .
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar activity
could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story emerged after
three groups of researchers presented independent studies at the annual
meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American Astronomical
Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the new findings
really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for the climate
here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about one
tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


Earth's Global Warming is causing the Sun to get hotter by radiating more
heat back to the sun.


ROTFL!! Nice idea, but nonsense! The earth is too small and too far
away to affect the sun.

Harry Merrick.


Don't worry -- some "climatologist" will come up with a hypothesis to
support that notion. Then, the usual suspects from the AGW crowd will
offer their support, claiming that the "majority of climatologists"
support it.
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Old July 2nd 11, 06:09 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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On Jun 30, 6:21*pm, "huhie" wrote:

Earth's Global Warming is causing the Sun to get hotter by radiating more
heat back to the sun.


Hey! I was waiting for "Wormley" to make the claim that man-made CO2
is causing changes in the sun!

SAVE THE SUN! CARBON TAXES NOW!


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Old June 30th 11, 11:45 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387
Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

I estimate that such estimations will be freely and often adjusted in
accordance with the estimated public impact of said second estimations.


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Old July 1st 11, 12:04 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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Vince Morgan wrote
"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387
Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

I estimate that such estimations will be freely and often adjusted in
accordance with the estimated public impact of said second estimations.


It's all part of the big conspiracy to befuddle those of us who see science that
tells us things we don't want to hear as part of the plot to confuse us.


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Old July 4th 11, 02:43 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.physics,alt.global-warming
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 08:45:42 +1000, "Vince Morgan"
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:58:11 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have
for the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


I estimate that such estimations will be freely and often adjusted in
accordance with the estimated public impact of said second estimations.


You mean "Among the FOX 'News' obeying public."


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works to move the answer "I don't know" back one "Why?" at a time.

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