Print-on-Demand. The solution to out-of-print classic science texts?

Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By*Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp


Bob Clark

http://www.cafepress.com

Robert Clark wrote:

Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp

Bob Clark

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Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp


Bob Clark

Out of print doesn't mean out of copyright. By the time the copyright
expires, the textbook is only a curiousity.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:41:26 -0500, "Marvin Margoshes"
wrote:


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Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp


Bob Clark

Out of print doesn't mean out of copyright. By the time the copyright
expires, the textbook is only a curiousity.




There is nothing inherent in on-demand printing that conflicts with
copyright rules.

BTW, I am just starting to read a textbook from about 1750, which I
understand is still considered very useful. (Actually, I am reading an
English translation, which is "recent", and probably under copyright.)

bob

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:41:26 -0500, "Marvin Margoshes"
wrote:
"Robert Clark" wrote in message
.com...
Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp

Out of print doesn't mean out of copyright. By the time the copyright
expires, the textbook is only a curiousity.
There is nothing inherent in on-demand printing that conflicts with
copyright rules.

BTW, I am just starting to read a textbook from about 1750, which I
understand is still considered very useful. (Actually, I am reading an
English translation, which is "recent", and probably under copyright.)

Depends what it's a text book about doesn't it I know a few people
that have read (in translation) books from around 1450 ... still very
current ... if you want to know about fighting with or against swords


Bruce


-----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to
think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone´s fault.
If it was Us, what did that make Me ? After all, I´m one of Us. I must be.
I´ve certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No-one ever thinks
of themselves as one of Them. We´re always one of Us. It´s Them that do
the bad things. = Terry Pratchett. Jingo.

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:41:26 -0500, "Marvin Margoshes"
wrote:
"Robert Clark" wrote in message
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Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp

Out of print doesn't mean out of copyright. By the time the copyright
expires, the textbook is only a curiousity.
There is nothing inherent in on-demand printing that conflicts with
copyright rules.

BTW, I am just starting to read a textbook from about 1750, which I
understand is still considered very useful. (Actually, I am reading an
English translation, which is "recent", and probably under copyright.)

Depends what it's a text book about doesn't it I know a few people
that have read (in translation) books from around 1450 ... still very
current ... if you want to know about fighting with or against swords


Bruce

The discussion is on a group of math and physical science newsgroups. If I
were teaching freshman alchemy ...

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:06:07 -0500, "Marvin Margoshes"
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:41:26 -0500, "Marvin Margoshes"
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Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp

Out of print doesn't mean out of copyright. By the time the copyright
expires, the textbook is only a curiousity.
There is nothing inherent in on-demand printing that conflicts with
copyright rules.

BTW, I am just starting to read a textbook from about 1750, which I
understand is still considered very useful. (Actually, I am reading an
English translation, which is "recent", and probably under copyright.)

Depends what it's a text book about doesn't it I know a few people
that have read (in translation) books from around 1450 ... still very
current ... if you want to know about fighting with or against swords


Bruce

The discussion is on a group of math and physical science newsgroups. If I
were teaching freshman alchemy ...


The book I was referring is a music book (Quantz, On Playing the
Flute). But I would think there are many science books of historical
interest from 18C and 19C.

My comment about the book was intended mainly in jest. I suspect we
all substantially agree on the merits of old books.

bob

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:41:26 -0500, "Marvin Margoshes"
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Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp

Out of print doesn't mean out of copyright. By the time the copyright
expires, the textbook is only a curiousity.
There is nothing inherent in on-demand printing that conflicts with
copyright rules.

BTW, I am just starting to read a textbook from about 1750, which I
understand is still considered very useful. (Actually, I am reading an
English translation, which is "recent", and probably under copyright.)

Depends what it's a text book about doesn't it I know a few people
that have read (in translation) books from around 1450 ... still very
current ... if you want to know about fighting with or against swords


The discussion is on a group of math and physical science newsgroups. If I
were teaching freshman alchemy ...

Indeed ... but the point is still valid. Sometimes old books really
are useful ... even if only for history papers ... and I assume that,
somewhere, someone teaches a history of science paper ?

Bruce


-----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to
think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone´s fault.
If it was Us, what did that make Me ? After all, I´m one of Us. I must be.
I´ve certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No-one ever thinks
of themselves as one of Them. We´re always one of Us. It´s Them that do
the bad things. = Terry Pratchett. Jingo.

You would have to get permission from the publisher to re-issue the
book from one of these small POD presses. The large book publishers
could not make money on bringing the book back in print for the small
number of books requested, say for a single class.


Bob Clark

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Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp


Bob Clark

Out of print doesn't mean out of copyright. By the time the copyright
expires, the textbook is only a curiousity.

(Robert Clark) wrote in message . com...
Saw this article in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Posted on Tue, Mar. 23, 2004
The latest word.
Print-on-demand lets aspiring authors order one copy of their work or
thousands. It's a new wave - or tsunami.
By Kathy Boccella
Inquirer Staff Writer
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/8252240.htm

In the article are described the new presses for which the per-book
printing costs are the same whether one book is ordered or 1,000.
These are used by people who want to self-publish. It requires an
initial outlay in the range of $500. This could be covered by a class
who wanted to use the book, at a price comparable to other textbooks
nowadays.
Here's a review of some of the POD publishers:

Start the Presses
By*Troy Dreier
May 27, 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1043174,00.asp


Bob Clark

I investigated several print-on-demand publishers and they all
required either a Word or WordPerfect file that they could format
themselves. Pretty useless for math that had to be done in TeX.
Finally found a publisher (the AMS,in fact--they insisted on AMSTeX,
which I do not care for).