Will ISS survive republican & tea party budget cuts?

Or might ISS get offered to international partners or deorbited in the
pacific?

Nasa might have a few bucks for robotic science if ISS, shuttle
replacement manned system, and heavy lifters were all zero budgeted to
help stop overspending.

I am not saying this is a good thing! just that it might occur....

given the other fiancial needs of our country today

Or might ISS get offered to international partners or deorbited in the
pacific?
Nasa might have a few bucks for robotic science if ISS, shuttle
replacement manned system, and heavy lifters were all zero budgeted to
help stop overspending.
I am not saying this is a good thing! just that it might occur....
given the other fiancial needs of our country today

May not be just Republicans and Tea Party folks. As a Senator Obama wanted
to do away with NASA. The latest promise of an additional flight in 2011
being made just before the election with no budget attached could just be a
keep them happy or grasping at straws until they vote. The shuttles seem to
be falling apart, and the fact that the ISS is not producing anything the
tax payers care about all speak negative about future funnding, One could
easily make the case of the shuttle and ISS are the past - let's just get
them over with. The heavy lift is a key to further NASA programs when
funding becomes available later in the decade. But it also has little real
justification in the eyes of the average tax payer, who doesn't understand
an enginering development program and the time required, now that
Constellation is dead. All of the NASA centers seemed to jump on the
Constellation Program as part of their future - there has to be alot of
savings potential in Obama's new direction. This may be the one thing all
could agree on for vastly different reasons.


Val Kraut

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:03:08 -0500, "Val Kraut"
wrote:

Or might ISS get offered to international partners or deorbited in the
pacific?
Nasa might have a few bucks for robotic science if ISS, shuttle
replacement manned system, and heavy lifters were all zero budgeted to
help stop overspending.
I am not saying this is a good thing! just that it might occur....
given the other fiancial needs of our country today

May not be just Republicans and Tea Party folks. As a Senator Obama wanted
to do away with NASA.

Cite? His Education Initiative called for delaying Constellation for
five years to pay for it. He never spoke or wrote of "doing away with
NASA". In fact he increased NASA's budget as President.

Brian

" Cite? His Education Initiative called for delaying Constellation for
five years to pay for it. He never spoke or wrote of "doing away with
NASA". In fact he increased NASA's budget as President.

Ok you end the present manned programs and delay the next for 5 years which
essentially dismantles the NASA and corporate teams. It's like you don't
kill someone - you just deprive them of air for a day!

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:52:08 -0500, "Val Kraut"
wrote:


" Cite? His Education Initiative called for delaying Constellation for
five years to pay for it. He never spoke or wrote of "doing away with
NASA". In fact he increased NASA's budget as President.

Ok you end the present manned programs and delay the next for 5 years which
essentially dismantles the NASA and corporate teams.

a) President Obama extended ISS from 2015 to 2020.
b) President Obama requested funding for commercial manned
spaceflight.
c) NASA is much more tnan manned space anyway.

Brian

a) President Obama extended ISS from 2015 to 2020.

He'll be out of office for at least 3 years in 2015 - big promise, Congress
has to fund it, one way or the other keeping promises isn't his strong
suite.

Le 07/11/10 19:03, Val Kraut a écrit :
Or might ISS get offered to international partners or deorbited in the
pacific?
Nasa might have a few bucks for robotic science if ISS, shuttle
replacement manned system, and heavy lifters were all zero budgeted to
help stop overspending.
I am not saying this is a good thing! just that it might occur....
given the other fiancial needs of our country today

May not be just Republicans and Tea Party folks. As a Senator Obama wanted
to do away with NASA. The latest promise of an additional flight in 2011
being made just before the election with no budget attached could just be a
keep them happy or grasping at straws until they vote. The shuttles seem to
be falling apart, and the fact that the ISS is not producing anything the
tax payers care about all speak negative about future funnding, One could
easily make the case of the shuttle and ISS are the past - let's just get
them over with.

You are 100% right. The U.S. is the past. China and India are the future.

The Shuttles are falling apart, as NASA is. In general, science and
education are things of the past. The tea party has begun, and the war
against science can start.


The heavy lift is a key to further NASA programs when
funding becomes available later in the decade.

Sure, the future is VERY long.

But it also has little real
justification in the eyes of the average tax payer, who doesn't understand
an enginering development program and the time required, now that
Constellation is dead. All of the NASA centers seemed to jump on the
Constellation Program as part of their future - there has to be alot of
savings potential in Obama's new direction. This may be the one thing all
could agree on for vastly different reasons.


Obviously there are a LOT of savings potential. Just shut down NASA, the
NIH, etc. With all those savings the U.S. can start reintroducing tax
cuts for poor billionairies.

Obviously there are a LOT of savings potential. Just shut down NASA, the
NIH, etc. With all those savings the U.S. can start reintroducing tax
cuts for poor billionairies.-

yep republicans demand tax cuts for the super rich.......

the ones who profited well as our economy collapsed......

the top 3% of all wage earners should pay more, since most people
today are hurting bad

On Nov 7, 7:52*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:

the top 3% of all wage earners should pay more,

They already are. *They pay a higher percentage of their income and
they pay a disproportionate share of the income taxes collected.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson

the filthy rich who have gotten far richer during our economc collapse
should pay more..

since everyone else is hurting

Le 08/11/10 05:14, Fred J. McCall a écrit :
wrote:

On Nov 7, 7:52 pm, Fred J. wrote:
wrote:

the top 3% of all wage earners should pay more,

They already are. They pay a higher percentage of their income and
they pay a disproportionate share of the income taxes collected.


the filthy rich who have gotten far richer during our economc collapse
should pay more..

since everyone else is hurting


Which part of "they ALREADY pay more" is it that is confusing you? And
that's "more" by pretty much any definition you care to use.


Lies.

For instance look at:
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3150

quote

Tax trends for the top 400 taxpayers

In this podcast, we’ll discuss trends in income and taxes for the
highest-income taxpayers. I’m Michelle Bazie and I’m joined by Chuck
Marr, Director of Federal Tax Policy at the Center on Budget and
Priority Policies (CBPP).

1. How have the very wealthiest taxpayers fared in recent years?

The federal income tax obligations for the wealthiest 400 people in the
country has declined dramatically. On a bottom line basis, this elite
group pays income taxes at about half the rate they did 15 years ago.
They pay income taxes at less than 17 cents on the dollar.

Moreover, while the incomes of average Americans have stagnated, the
incomes of the top 400 have surged, increasing by more than 400 percent
over a decade and a half.

What puts someone in this top 400 category?

To make it into the top 400, a household needed an adjusted gross
income of at least $139 million in 2007.

end quote

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