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NATU "Gravity is mercilessly impartial - on Earth, it accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared. That property is the cornerstone of Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity, which states that gravity is indistinguishable from any other type of acceleration." That gravity "accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared" is true but this is Newton's emission theory of light developed by John Michell in the 18th century and temporarily adopted by Einstein in 1911. If NATURE's editors were both honest and knowledgeable they would have published the following text: "Gravity is mercilessly impartial - on Earth, it accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared. That property is the cornerstone of Newton's emission theory of light; it is equivalent to the fact that, in the absence of a gravitational field, the speed of light varies with the speed of the emitter, v, in accordance with the equation c'=c+v." Although in 1911 Einstein was on the right track, in 1915 he spoiled everything by making light accelerate faster than cannonballs by a factor of two: http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-01/6-01.htm "In geometrical units we define c_0 = 1, so Einstein's 1911 formula can be written simply as c=1+phi. However, this formula for the speed of light (not to mention this whole approach to gravity) turned out to be incorrect, as Einstein realized during the years leading up to 1915 and the completion of the general theory. In fact, the general theory of relativity doesn't give any equation for the speed of light at a particular location, because the effect of gravity cannot be represented by a simple scalar field of c values. Instead, the "speed of light" at a each point depends on the direction of the light ray through that point, as well as on the choice of coordinate systems, so we can't generally talk about the value of c at a given point in a non- vanishing gravitational field. However, if we consider just radial light rays near a spherically symmetrical (and non- rotating) mass, and if we agree to use a specific set of coordinates, namely those in which the metric coefficients are independent of t, then we can read a formula analogous to Einstein's 1911 formula directly from the Schwarzschild metric. (...) In the Newtonian limit the classical gravitational potential at a distance r from mass m is phi=-m/r, so if we let c_r = dr/dt denote the radial speed of light in Schwarzschild coordinates, we have c_r =1+2phi, which corresponds to Einstein's 1911 equation, except that we have a factor of 2 instead of 1 on the potential term." http://www.speed-light.info/speed_of_light_variable.htm "Einstein wrote this paper in 1911 in German (download from: http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/an...35_898-908.pdf ). It predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. You can find an English translation of this paper in the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity' beginning on page 99; you will find in section 3 of that paper Einstein's derivation of the variable speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is: c'=c0(1+phi/c^2) where phi is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light co is measured......You can find a more sophisticated derivation later by Einstein (1955) from the full theory of general relativity in the weak field approximation....For the 1955 results but not in coordinates see page 93, eqn (6.28): c(r)=[1+2phi(r)/c^2]c. Namely the 1955 approximation shows a variation in km/sec twice as much as first predicted in 1911." Nowadays Einsteiniana's marauders do not give a sh-t about either Newton's emission theory of light or Einstein's relativity and teach anything: http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-.../dp/0553380168 Stephen Hawking, "A Brief History of Time", Chapter 6: "Under the theory that light is made up of waves, it was not clear how it would respond to gravity. But if light is composed of particles, one might expect them to be affected by gravity in the same way that cannonballs, rockets, and planets are.....In fact, it is not really consistent to treat light like cannonballs in Newtons theory of gravity because the speed of light is fixed. (A cannonball fired upward from the earth will be slowed down by gravity and will eventually stop and fall back; a photon, however, must continue upward at a constant speed...)" http://www.hawking.org.uk/index.php?...64&It emid=66 Stephen Hawking: "Interestingly enough, Laplace himself wrote a paper in 1799 on how some stars could have a gravitational field so strong that light could not escape, but would be dragged back onto the star. He even calculated that a star of the same density as the Sun, but two hundred and fifty times the size, would have this property. But although Laplace may not have realised it, the same idea had been put forward 16 years earlier by a Cambridge man, John Mitchell, in a paper in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society. Both Mitchell and Laplace thought of light as consisting of particles, rather like cannon balls, that could be slowed down by gravity, and made to fall back on the star. But a famous experiment, carried out by two Americans, Michelson and Morley in 1887, showed that light always travelled at a speed of one hundred and eighty six thousand miles a second, no matter where it came from. How then could gravity slow down light, and make it fall back." http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic..._of_light.html Steve Carlip: "Is c, the speed of light in vacuum, constant? At the 1983 Conference Generale des Poids et Mesures, the following SI (Systeme International) definition of the metre was adopted: The metre is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second. This defines the speed of light in vacuum to be exactly 299,792,458 m/s. This provides a very short answer to the question "Is c constant": Yes, c is CONSTANT BY DEFINITION!....Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: ". . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position." Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. THIS INTERPRETATION IS PERFECTLY VALID AND MAKES GOOD PHYSICAL SENSE, BUT A MORE MODERN INTERPRETATION IS THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONSTANT in general relativity." Pentcho Valev |
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[snip crap] That gravity "accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared" is true [snip rest of crap] idiot http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9909014 Amer. J. Phys. 71 770 (2003) Phys. Rev. Lett. 92 121101 (2004) Nature 425 374-376 (2003). http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2006-3/ Section 3.4.1, Figure 5 falling light idiot -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm |
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On Jun 21, 11:42 pm, harald wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
And here Kevin Brown explains the factor two much better: http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath115/kmath115.htm Harald http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath115/kmath115.htm "In the general theory of relativity the predicted frequency shift for light in a gravitational field is the same as Einstein had predicted in 1911. However, in the 1915 theory, the amount of deflection which a ray of light is predicted to undergo when passing by a gravitating body is twice as much as he had predicted in 1911." The amount of deflection predicted in 1915 ("twice as much as he had predicted in 1911") is INCOMPATIBLE with the 1911 frequency shift. See also this: http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-01/6-01.htm "In geometrical units we define c_0 = 1, so Einstein's 1911 formula can be written simply as c=1+phi. However, this formula for the speed of light (not to mention this whole approach to gravity) turned out to be incorrect, as Einstein realized during the years leading up to 1915 and the completion of the general theory. In fact, the general theory of relativity doesn't give any equation for the speed of light at a particular location, because the effect of gravity cannot be represented by a simple scalar field of c values. Instead, the "speed of light" at a each point depends on the direction of the light ray through that point, as well as on the choice of coordinate systems, so we can't generally talk about the value of c at a given point in a non- vanishing gravitational field. However, if we consider just radial light rays near a spherically symmetrical (and non- rotating) mass, and if we agree to use a specific set of coordinates, namely those in which the metric coefficients are independent of t, then we can read a formula analogous to Einstein's 1911 formula directly from the Schwarzschild metric. (...) In the Newtonian limit the classical gravitational potential at a distance r from mass m is phi=-m/r, so if we let c_r = dr/dt denote the radial speed of light in Schwarzschild coordinates, we have c_r =1+2phi, which corresponds to Einstein's 1911 equation, except that we have a factor of 2 instead of 1 on the potential term." http://www.speed-light.info/speed_of_light_variable.htm "Einstein wrote this paper in 1911 in German (download from: http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/an...35_898-908.pdf ). It predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. You can find an English translation of this paper in the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity' beginning on page 99; you will find in section 3 of that paper Einstein's derivation of the variable speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is: c'=c0(1+phi/c^2) where phi is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light co is measured......You can find a more sophisticated derivation later by Einstein (1955) from the full theory of general relativity in the weak field approximation....For the 1955 results but not in coordinates see page 93, eqn (6.28): c(r)=[1+2phi(r)/c^2]c. Namely the 1955 approximation shows a variation in km/sec twice as much as first predicted in 1911." The frequency shift predicted in 1911 (the prediction did not change in 1915) is f'=f(1+phi/c^2); it was confirmed experimentally by Pound and Rebka in 1960. Given the formula: (frequency) = (speed of light)/(wavelength) the equation f'=f(1+phi/c^2) is compatible with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+phi/c^2) given by Newton's emission theory of light but incompatible with Einstein's 1915 equation c'=c(1+2phi/c^2). Two conclusions: (1) Einstein's 1915 theory is inconsistent: the predicted frequency shift f'=f(1+phi/c^2) and the predicted shift in the speed of light c'=c(1+2phi/c^2) cannot be reconciled within the formula: (frequency) = (speed of light)/(wavelength) (2) The Pound-Rebka experiment refutes the amount of deflection predicted in 1915 ("twice as much as he had predicted in 1911") and confirms the amount of deflection predicted by Newton's emission theory of light. Pentcho Valev |
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In 1907 Einstein realized that, in all circumstances, the speed of
photons varies exactly as the speed of cannonballs does. However recognizing that explicitly would have put an end to the system of miracles (length contraction, time dilation etc.) that was to replace tedious Newtonian science and convert Albert the Plagiarist into Divine Albert. So fraud and camouflage invaded the world of science and yet, from time to time, guilty conscience makes Einsteinians hint at the truth: http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers...UP_TimesNR.pdf John Norton: "Already in 1907, a mere two years after the completion of the special theory, he [Einstein] had concluded that the speed of light is variable in the presence of a gravitational field." http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm Lee Smolin: "Special relativity was the result of 10 years of intellectual struggle, yet Einstein had convinced himself it was wrong within two years of publishing it." http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_De...e_of_Radiation The Development of Our Views on the Composition and Essence of Radiation by Albert Einstein, 1909 EINSTEIN'S 1909 CONFESSION: "A large body of facts shows undeniably that light has certain fundamental properties that are better explained by Newton's emission theory of light than by the oscillation theory. For this reason, I believe that the next phase in the development of theoretical physics will bring us a theory of light that can be considered a fusion of the oscillation and emission theories. The purpose of the following remarks is to justify this belief and to show that a profound change in our views on the composition and essence of light is imperative.....Then the electromagnetic fields that make up light no longer appear as a state of a hypothetical medium, but rather as independent entities that the light source gives off, just as in Newton's emission theory of light......Relativity theory has changed our views on light. Light is conceived not as a manifestation of the state of some hypothetical medium, but rather as an independent entity like matter. Moreover, this theory shares with the corpuscular theory of light the unusual property that light carries inertial mass from the emitting to the absorbing object." http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/ind...ecture_id=3576 John Stachel: "Einstein discussed the other side of the particle-field dualism - get rid of fields and just have particles." EINSTEIN'S 1954 CONFESSION: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics." John Stachel's comment: "If I go down, everything goes down, ha ha, hm, ha ha ha." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/ "Genius Among Geniuses" by Thomas Levenson A clue to EINSTEIN'S 1954 CONFESSION: "And then, in June, Einstein completes special relativity, which adds a twist to the story: Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves. Alice's Red Queen can accept many impossible things before breakfast, but it takes a supremely confident mind to do so. Einstein, age 26, sees light as wave and particle, picking the attribute he needs to confront each problem in turn. Now that's tough." http://books.google.com/books?id=JokgnS1JtmMC "Relativity and Its Roots" By Banesh Hoffmann p.92: "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether." http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain circumstances." http://www.larecherche.fr/content/re...ticle?id=10745 Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond: "Un siècle après son émergence, la théorie de la relativité est encore bien mal comprise - et pas seulement par les profanes ! Le vocable même qui la désigne (« relativité ») est fort inadéquat. Ses énoncés courants abondent en maladresses sémantiques, et donc en confusions épistémologiques. Paradoxe majeur, cette théorie, présentée comme un sommet de la modernité scientifique, garde de nombreux traits primitifs. Or, de récentes recherches montrent éloquemment qu'un sérieux approfondissement de ses concepts et de ses formulations peut résulter du retour à ses origines, avant même Einstein. Déjà le principe de relativité se comprend mieux si on le détache de la forme nouvelle qu'il prit après Lorentz, Poincaré et Einstein, pour le ressourcer chez Galilée et Descartes. Mais surtout, l'examen de nombreux travaux des XVIIe et XVIIIe siècles, injustement oubliés, met en évidence une théorie particulaire de la lumière, en germe dans la physique newtonienne, qui ouvre des voies d'approche négligées vers la théorie moderne. Ces considérations contrebalancent utilement le point de vue ondulatoire traditionnel, et allègent ses difficultés." http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/...40/pgs/4_5.pdf Jean Eisenstaedt: "Même s'il était conscient de l'intérêt de la théorie de l'émission, Einstein n'a pas pris le chemin, totalement oublié, de Michell, de Blair, des Principia en somme. Le contexte de découverte de la relativité ignorera le XVIIIème siècle et ses racines historiques plongent au coeur du XIXème siècle. Arago, Fresnel, Fizeau, Maxwell, Mascart, Michelson, Poincaré, Lorentz en furent les principaux acteurs et l'optique ondulatoire le cadre dans lequel ces questions sont posées. Pourtant, au plan des structures physiques, l'optique relativiste des corps en mouvement de cette fin du XVIIIème est infiniment plus intéressante - et plus utile pédagogiquement - que le long cheminement qu'a imposé l'éther." http://www.mfo.de/programme/schedule...WR_2006_10.pdf Jean Eisenstaedt: "At the end of the 18th century, a natural extension of Newton's dynamics to light was developed but immediately forgotten. A body of works completed the Principia with a relativistic optics of moving bodies, the discovery of the Doppler-Fizeau effect some sixty years before Doppler, and many other effects and ideas which represent a fascinating preamble to Einstein relativities. It was simply supposed that 'a body-light', as Newton named it, was subject to the whole dynamics of the Principia in much the same way as were material particles; thus it was subject to the Galilean relativity and its velocity was supposed to be variable. Of course it was subject to the short range 'refringent' force of the corpuscular theory of light -- which is part of the Principia-- but also to the long range force of gravitation which induces Newton's theory of gravitation. The fact that the 'mass' of a corpuscle of light was not known did not constitute a problem since it does not appear in the Newtonian (or Einsteinian) equations of motion. It was precisely what John Michell (1724-1793), Robert Blair (1748-1828), Johann G. von Soldner (1776-1833) and François Arago (1786-1853) were to do at the end of the 18th century and the beginning the 19th century in the context of Newton's dynamics. Actually this 'completed' Newtonian theory of light and material corpuscle seems to have been implicitly accepted at the time. In such a Newtonian context, not only Soldner's calculation of the deviation of light in a gravitational field was understood, but also dark bodies (cousins of black holes). A natural (Galilean and thus relativistic) optics of moving bodies was also developed which easily explained aberration and implied as well the essence of what we call today the Doppler effect. Moreover, at the same time the structure of -- but also the questions raised by-- the Michelson experiment was understood. Most of this corpus has long been forgotten. The Michell-Blair-Arago effect, prior to Doppler's effect, is entirely unknown to physicists and historians. As to the influence of gravitation on light, the story was very superficially known but had never been studied in any detail. Moreover, the existence of a theory dealing with light, relativity and gravitation, embedded in Newton's Principia was completely ignored by physicists and by historians as well. But it was a simple and natural way to deal with the question of light, relativity (and gravitation) in a Newtonian context." Pentcho Valev |
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On Jun 21, 7:07*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/1006....2010.303.html NATU "Gravity is mercilessly impartial - on Earth, it accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared. That property is the cornerstone of Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity, which states that gravity is indistinguishable from any other type of acceleration." Argh! What a poor and sloppy way to put it... That gravity "accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared" is true but this is Newton's emission theory of light developed by John Michell in the 18th century and temporarily adopted by Einstein in 1911. If NATURE's editors were both honest and knowledgeable they would have published the following text: "Gravity is mercilessly impartial - on Earth, it accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared. That property is the cornerstone of Newton's emission theory of light; it is equivalent to the fact that, in the absence of a gravitational field, the speed of light varies with the speed of the emitter, v, in accordance with the equation c'=c+v." They should have cited Einstein instead, according to whom light bends but does not accelerate while approaching the Earth. Although in 1911 Einstein was on the right track, in 1915 he spoiled everything by making light accelerate faster than cannonballs by a factor of two: http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-01/6-01.htm [..] No. And here Kevin Brown explains the factor two much better: http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath115/kmath115.htm Harald |
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On Jun 21, 1:07*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/1006....2010.303.html NATU "Gravity is mercilessly impartial - on Earth, it accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared. That property is the cornerstone of Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity, which states that gravity is indistinguishable from any other type of acceleration." That gravity "accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared" is true but this is Newton's emission theory of light developed by John Michell in the 18th century and temporarily adopted by Einstein in 1911. If NATURE's editors were both honest and knowledgeable they would have published the following text: "Gravity is mercilessly impartial - on Earth, it accelerates light and heavy objects alike with a tug of 9.8 metres per second squared. That property is the cornerstone of Newton's emission theory of light; it is equivalent to the fact that, in the absence of a gravitational field, the speed of light varies with the speed of the emitter, v, in accordance with the equation c'=c+v." Although in 1911 Einstein was on the right track, in 1915 he spoiled everything by making light accelerate faster than cannonballs by a factor of two: http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-01/6-01.htm "In geometrical units we define c_0 = 1, so Einstein's 1911 formula can be written simply as c=1+phi. However, this formula for the speed of light (not to mention this whole approach to gravity) turned out to be incorrect, as Einstein realized during the years leading up to 1915 and the completion of the general theory. In fact, the general theory of relativity doesn't give any equation for the speed of light at a particular location, because the effect of gravity cannot be represented by a simple scalar field of c values. Instead, the "speed of light" at a each point depends on the direction of the light ray through that point, as well as on the choice of coordinate systems, so we can't generally talk about the value of c at a given point in a non- vanishing gravitational field. However, if we consider just radial light rays near a spherically symmetrical (and non- rotating) mass, and if we agree to use a specific set of coordinates, namely those in which the metric coefficients are independent of t, then we can read a formula analogous to Einstein's 1911 formula directly from the Schwarzschild metric. (...) In the Newtonian limit the classical gravitational potential at a distance r from mass m is phi=-m/r, so if we let c_r = dr/dt denote the radial speed of light in Schwarzschild coordinates, we have c_r =1+2phi, which corresponds to Einstein's 1911 equation, except that we have a factor of 2 instead of 1 on the potential term." http://www.speed-light.info/speed_of_light_variable.htm "Einstein wrote this paper in 1911 in German (download from:http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/an...ein-papers/191... ). It predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. You can find an English translation of this paper in the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity' beginning on page 99; you will find in section 3 of that paper Einstein's derivation of the variable speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is: c'=c0(1+phi/c^2) where phi is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light co is measured......You can find a more sophisticated derivation later by Einstein (1955) from the full theory of general relativity in the weak field approximation....For the 1955 results but not in coordinates see page 93, eqn (6.28): c(r)=[1+2phi(r)/c^2]c. Namely the 1955 approximation shows a variation in km/sec twice as much as first predicted in 1911." Nowadays Einsteiniana's marauders do not give a sh-t about either Newton's emission theory of light or Einstein's relativity and teach anything: http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-.../dp/0553380168 Stephen Hawking, "A Brief History of Time", Chapter 6: "Under the theory that light is made up of waves, it was not clear how it would respond to gravity. But if light is composed of particles, one might expect them to be affected by gravity in the same way that cannonballs, rockets, and planets are.....In fact, it is not really consistent to treat light like cannonballs in Newtons theory of gravity because the speed of light is fixed. (A cannonball fired upward from the earth will be slowed down by gravity and will eventually stop and fall back; a photon, however, must continue upward at a constant speed...)" http://www.hawking.org.uk/index.php?...view=article&i.... Stephen Hawking: "Interestingly enough, Laplace himself wrote a paper in 1799 on how some stars could have a gravitational field so strong that light could not escape, but would be dragged back onto the star. He even calculated that a star of the same density as the Sun, but two hundred and fifty times the size, would have this property. But although Laplace may not have realised it, the same idea had been put forward 16 years earlier by a Cambridge man, John Mitchell, in a paper in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society. Both Mitchell and Laplace thought of light as consisting of particles, rather like cannon balls, that could be slowed down by gravity, and made to fall back on the star. But a famous experiment, carried out by two Americans, Michelson and Morley in 1887, showed that light always travelled at a speed of one hundred and eighty six thousand miles a second, no matter where it came from. How then could gravity slow down light, and make it fall back." http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...fLight/speed_o... Steve Carlip: "Is c, the speed of light in vacuum, constant? At the 1983 Conference Generale des Poids et Mesures, the following SI (Systeme International) definition of the metre was adopted: The metre is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second. This defines the speed of light in vacuum to be exactly 299,792,458 m/s. This provides a very short answer to the question "Is c constant": Yes, c is CONSTANT BY DEFINITION!....Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: ". . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position." Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. THIS INTERPRETATION IS PERFECTLY VALID AND MAKES GOOD PHYSICAL SENSE, BUT A MORE MODERN INTERPRETATION IS THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONSTANT in general relativity." Pentcho Valev And the ignorance fest continues... |
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[...] And the ignorance fest continues... Yep. http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm Look carefully at the dates. |
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Hamid V. Ansari
https://sites.google.com/site/scient...ofhamidvansari Hamid V. Ansari - Great Mistakes of the Physicists http://www.mountainman.com.au/news97_k.html -- Ahmed Ouahi, Architect Best Regards! "eric gisse" kirjoitti ... Igor wrote: [...] And the ignorance fest continues... Yep. http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm Look carefully at the dates. |
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