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Thank you, anti-SV folks!
"Darren Hennig" wrote in message
om... I would like to publicly thank the very few, very vocal, prolific anti-SV folks out there in SAA-land and beyond. I am a very happy SV customer of three years running, and owner of two finely-crafted achromats. I do a lot of observing with both, and enjoy them very much. If it were not for you all, Mr. Maris would have not perhaps improved on his website appearances, wording and layout, and most importantly, his telescope designs. Certainly, he may have considered doing so later on, but your efforts have allowed him to investigate new opportunities to make his offerings even better for the money, sooner. Good news for his customers and patrons! Further, there have been many new SV owners who have commented over many months that if it were not for all the numerous and intense exchanges of information here and elsewhere, they would have possibly never known of Stellarvue at all. With all this free advertising, Mr. Maris can save a lot on his marketing budget and put it into R&D. Good news for all of his current and future customers! SV could not do any better than what you have done for them, in getting the name out there... Finally, thank you all for educating us all on what constitutes a good telescope. I have learned a lot - I am pretty certain others have also. Regards, Darren Hennig, M.Sc. You are welcome. Regards, Chuck Taylor, B.A., M.A., D.V.D., Ph.D., B.V.D, M&M (plain and peanut) |
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Thank you, anti-SV folks!
David wrote in message ...
wrote: Funny how SV generates such dislike, while companies like AP, TMB, Aries, Questar don't? -Rich Rich, I dislike Aries' bussines practices because VD sells refurbished Chromacor as new for full price without disclosure to the buyer. Vic Maris sells blems on ebay. David You simply don't know what is what. If we _exchanged_ the cell, re-coat the surfaces, assembled and tested it again. It looks absolutely same as new. No reason to sell them for lower price. V.D. |
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Thank you, anti-SV folks!
It "looks" but is NOT new. You exactly described refurbishing. To the west of Kherson,
such goods is sold at discounted price with a sticker "Refurbished". Potential buyers, beware. David ValeryD wrote: David wrote in message ... wrote: Funny how SV generates such dislike, while companies like AP, TMB, Aries, Questar don't? -Rich Rich, I dislike Aries' bussines practices because VD sells refurbished Chromacor as new for full price without disclosure to the buyer. Vic Maris sells blems on ebay. David You simply don't know what is what. If we _exchanged_ the cell, re-coat the surfaces, assembled and tested it again. It looks absolutely same as new. No reason to sell them for lower price. V.D. |
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Thank you, anti-SV folks!
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 07:59:24 -0500, David
wrote: It "looks" but is NOT new. You exactly described refurbishing. To the west of Kherson, such goods is sold at discounted price with a sticker "Refurbished". Potential buyers, beware. David ValeryD wrote: David wrote in message ... wrote: Funny how SV generates such dislike, while companies like AP, TMB, Aries, Questar don't? -Rich Rich, I dislike Aries' bussines practices because VD sells refurbished Chromacor as new for full price without disclosure to the buyer. Vic Maris sells blems on ebay. David You simply don't know what is what. If we _exchanged_ the cell, re-coat the surfaces, assembled and tested it again. It looks absolutely same as new. No reason to sell them for lower price. V.D. We aren't taking about car with a rolled back odometer. I hate to break it to you, but if some company gets back a product that has zero flaws, or has an element that when replaced renders the whole new, then why should they have to sell it as used? Eyepieces and related items do not "wear out" and if they are worn, it is clearly visible to any buyer. -Rich |
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Thank you, anti-SV folks!
wrote in message
... On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 07:59:24 -0500, David wrote: It "looks" but is NOT new. You exactly described refurbishing. To the west of Kherson, such goods is sold at discounted price with a sticker "Refurbished". Potential buyers, beware. David ValeryD wrote: David wrote in message ... wrote: Funny how SV generates such dislike, while companies like AP, TMB, Aries, Questar don't? -Rich Rich, I dislike Aries' bussines practices because VD sells refurbished Chromacor as new for full price without disclosure to the buyer. Vic Maris sells blems on ebay. David You simply don't know what is what. If we _exchanged_ the cell, re-coat the surfaces, assembled and tested it again. It looks absolutely same as new. No reason to sell them for lower price. V.D. We aren't taking about car with a rolled back odometer. I hate to break it to you, but if some company gets back a product that has zero flaws, or has an element that when replaced renders the whole new, then why should they have to sell it as used? Eyepieces and related items do not "wear out" and if they are worn, it is clearly visible to any buyer. -Rich I beleive this refers to federal law but I'm not certain: 3. Reconditioned, Rebuilt, or Refurbished Goods As with previously used goods, the reconditioned, rebuilt, or refurbished nature of the goods must be disclosed prior to any sale. A related issue arises with new products that contain a part or parts that have been reconditioned or otherwise previously used. Even if the smallest component has been refurbished, and the product is inspected to insure that it meets original factory specifications, you are required to disclose the presence of the restored component. For example, in a recent case, a computer was manufacturer was sued for selling computers that contained a reconditioned computer chip. As should be readily apparent, establishing and maintaining an inventory control system that tracks and reflects the disposition of product orders and returned merchandise is essential to avoid violating the law. This system will enable you to ensure that products are sent to customers in a timely manner and that returned merchandise is not automatically restored to inventory without a proper inspection and, where appropriate, a new label. Aside from complying with the law, you will better insure that customers are not disappointed with the quality of your product and that your good reputation remains intact. It's my understanding that to sell anything that has required even the slightest repair as new, is illegal in the US. Brian A |
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"David" wrote in message om... (ValeryD) wrote in message news: ..... snip Once again my advice - contact the holders of refurbished and testing units and offer them an exchange or some form of compensation. The problem would be if you do not know where such units ended. One more reason for having serial numbers. David Just curious and no offense intended, but if that unit, (or a totally refurbished, like-new Nagler) was in absolutely perfect and like-new condition, why would the end user care as long as it worked perfectly and did the job as advertised? I have seen some people on Astromart pass up a perfectly immaculate eyepiece, for a great price, because of a tiny barrel mark. I buy eyepieces, filters, etc to actually use, not to display as a collection in a glass case on the coffee table. There are quite a few items selling on Astromart for MORE than original cost because someone wants that particular piece and can't buy new because they aren't made any more. Such as the Orion 10.5mm Megavista, and for awhile, the Lumicon UHC filters. I saw one 1.25" UHC sell for $145. Lots of AP APO's sell for more than cost because of the waiting list. Scott |
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Information for buyers of goods from Ukraine
Scott Milner wrote:
I have seen some people on Astromart pass up a perfectly immaculate eyepiece, for a great price, because of a tiny barrel mark. I buy eyepieces, filters, etc to actually use, not to display as a collection in a glass case on the coffee table. There are quite a few items selling on Astromart for MORE than original cost because someone wants that particular piece and can't buy new because they aren't made any more. Such as the Orion 10.5mm Megavista, and for awhile, the Lumicon UHC filters. I saw one 1.25" UHC sell for $145. Lots of AP APO's sell for more than cost because of the waiting list. It is strange, isn't it. Astromart buyers are buying a used astro products, for use in the field viewing the heavens presumably; yet an original box is important? What's up with that? |
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