New ancient Egypt temples discovered in Sinai

By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city that
could have been used to impress foreign delegations visiting
Egypt, antiquities authorities announced Tuesday.

Among the discoveries was the largest mud brick temple found
in the Sinai with an area of 70 by 80 meters (77 by 87
yards) and fortified with mud walls 3 meters (10 feet)
thick, said Zahi Hawass, chief of Egypt's Supreme Council of
Antiquities.

The find was made in Qantara, 2 1/2 miles (4 kilometers)
east of the Suez Canal. These temples mark the latest
discovery by archaeologists digging up the remains of the
city on the military road known as "Way of Horus." Horus is
a falcon-headed god, who represented the greatest cosmic
powers for ancient Egyptians.

The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close to
present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory
of Gaza.

Archaeologist Mohammed Abdel-Maqsoud, chief of the
excavation team, said the large brick temple could
potentially rewrite the historical and military significance
of the Sinai for the ancient Egyptians.

The temple contains four hallways, three stone purification
bowls and colorful inscriptions commemorating Ramses I and
II. The grandeur and sheer size of the temple could have
been used to impress armies and visiting foreign delegations
as they arrived in Egypt, authorities said.

The dig has been part of a joint project with the Culture
Ministry that started in 1986 to find fortresses along the
military road. Hawass said early studies suggested the
fortified city had been Egypt's military headquarters from
the New Kingdom (1569-1081 B.C.) until the Ptolemaic era, a
period lasting about 1500 years.

In a previous find, archaeologists there reported finding
the first ever New Kingdom temple to be found in northern
Sinai. Studies indicated the temple was built on top of an
18th Dynasty fort (1569-1315 B.C.).

Last year, a collection of reliefs belonging to King Ramses
II and King Seti I (1314-1304 B.C.) were also unearthed
along with rows of warehouses used by the ancient Egyptian
army during the New Kingdom era to store wheat and weapons.

Abdel-Maqsoud said the fortified city corresponded to the
inscriptions of the Way of Horus found on the walls of the
Karnak Temple in Luxor which illustrated the features of 11
military fortresses that protected Egypt's eastern borders.
Only five of them have been discovered to date.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

On Apr 23, 12:48*am, "Peter Jason" wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city ...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. Just another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

In article
,
" wrote:

On Apr 23, 12:48*am, "Peter Jason" wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city ...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. Just another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

The political leanings of the "journalist" are clear from the paragraph
that reads:

"The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close to
present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory
of Gaza."

There was no country named Palestine then, or at any time between then
and now. The writer apparently couldn't bring himself to write "Israel."

On Apr 23, 11:06Â*am, Matthew Lybanon wrote:
In article
,





" wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:48Â*am, "Peter Jason" wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city ...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. Â*Just another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

The political leanings of the "journalist" are clear from the paragraph
that reads:

"The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close to
present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory
of Gaza."

There was no country named Palestine then, or at any time between then
and now. Â*

Irrelevant. There is a PLACE known as Palestine:
"Palestine (Greek: Î*αλαιστίνη, PalaistinÄ“; Latin: Palaestina; Hebrew:
פלשתי×*ה‎ Palestina; Arabic: Ù�لسطين‎ Filasá¹*Ä«n, Falasá¹*Ä«n, Filisá¹*Ä«n) is a
name which has been widely used since Roman times to refer to the
region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.[1] It is
derived from a name used already much earlier for a narrower
geographical region, mainly along the coastal region. In its broader
meaning as a geographical term, Palestine can refer to an area that
includes contemporary Israel and the Palestinian territories, parts of
Jordan, and parts of Lebanon and Syria.[1][2] In its narrow meaning,
it refers to the area within the boundaries of the former British
Mandate of Palestine (1920-1948) west of the Jordan River."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

It is the land previously known as Philistia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistia
"The etymology of the word "Philistia" into English is from Old French
Philistin, from Late Latin Philistinus, from Late Greek Philistinoi
(Phylistiim in the Septuagint), from Hebrew P'lishtim, (See, e.g., 1
Samuel 17:26, 17:36; 2 Samuel 1:20; Judges 14:3), "people of
P'lesheth" ("Philistia"); cf. Akkadian Palastu, Egyptian Palusata; the
word probably is the people's name for itself.

The writer apparently couldn't bring himself to write "Israel."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The author may also have been a Philistine.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

wrote in message
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On Apr 23, 11:06 am, Matthew Lybanon wrote:
In article
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" wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:48 am, "Peter Jason" wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city ...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. Just another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

The political leanings of the "journalist" are clear from the paragraph
that reads:

"The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close to
present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory
of Gaza."

There was no country named Palestine then, or at any time between then
and now.

Irrelevant. There is a PLACE known as Palestine:
"Palestine (Greek: ??????????, Palaistine; Latin: Palaestina; Hebrew:
???????? Palestina; Arabic: ??????? Filas?in, Falas?in, Filis?in) is a
name which has been widely used since Roman times to refer to the
region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.[1] It is
derived from a name used already much earlier for a narrower
geographical region, mainly along the coastal region. In its broader
meaning as a geographical term, Palestine can refer to an area that
includes contemporary Israel and the Palestinian territories, parts of
Jordan, and parts of Lebanon and Syria.[1][2] In its narrow meaning,
it refers to the area within the boundaries of the former British
Mandate of Palestine (1920-1948) west of the Jordan River."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

It is the land previously known as Philistia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistia
"The etymology of the word "Philistia" into English is from Old French
Philistin, from Late Latin Philistinus, from Late Greek Philistinoi
(Phylistiim in the Septuagint), from Hebrew P'lishtim, (See, e.g., 1
Samuel 17:26, 17:36; 2 Samuel 1:20; Judges 14:3), "people of
P'lesheth" ("Philistia"); cf. Akkadian Palastu, Egyptian Palusata; the
word probably is the people's name for itself.

The writer apparently couldn't bring himself to write "Israel."- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The author may also have been a Philistine.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA


Oh, you mean Canaan, extending from Lebanon southward across Gaza to the
"Brook of Egypt" and eastward to the Jordan ...
a land flowing with dairy produce and apiaries.
The place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the
Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

Not much ice cream, though. Go to Dairy Queen or Baskin Robbins for your
milk and honey.
Androcles, the Britite.

Androcles wrote:
....
The author may also have been a Philistine.

It is not clear why the Latin Rite, as opposed to the Eastern Rite adopted
the OT corruption of Palestinian as Philistine.

--
Surprising these days how few realize Planets of the Apes started
as the fantasy story of a shipwrecked goy coming ashore on the
hidden Jewish state of Israel.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 4134
http://www.giwersworld.org/holo/ a8
Fri Apr 24 08:05:01 EDT 2009

"Matthew Lybanon" wrote in message
...
In article
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" wrote:

On Apr 23, 12:48 am, "Peter Jason"
wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military
road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city ...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my
idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. Just
another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

The political leanings of the "journalist" are clear from
the paragraph
that reads:

"The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close
to
present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory
of Gaza."

There was no country named Palestine then, or at any time
between then
and now. The writer apparently couldn't bring himself to
write "Israel."

Perhaps he's ****ed off that the Zionists invaded the Levant
in 1948 (and before), causing the displacement of much of
its population.
Quite reasonable, really.

On Apr 23, 2:59*pm, "Peter Jason" wrote:
"Matthew Lybanon" wrote in message

...



In article
,
" wrote:

On Apr 23, 12:48 am, "Peter Jason"
wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military
road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city ...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my
idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. *Just
another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

The political leanings of the "journalist" are clear from
the paragraph
that reads:

"The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close
to
present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory
of Gaza."

There was no country named Palestine then, or at any time
between then
and now. *The writer apparently couldn't bring himself to
write "Israel."

Perhaps he's ****ed off that the Zionists invaded the Levant
in 1948 (and before), causing the displacement of much of
its population.
Quite reasonable, really.

A rhetorical question, but a question nonetheless;

- Do we consider the present day Egyptians when we think about the
time of the Pharaohs and the Glory that was 'the Kingdom'?

- Do we consider the present day people of 'Palestine' of the same two
eras, as in- two and three thousand years, and more, have gone by. Why
are we still hung up on these ancient grudges?

See, I _warned_ you it was rhetorical...


TBerk
btw- why isn't this thread about Pharaonic Astronomy instead?

"TBerk" wrote in message
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On Apr 23, 2:59 pm, "Peter Jason" wrote:
"Matthew Lybanon" wrote in message

...



In article
,
" wrote:

On Apr 23, 12:48 am, "Peter Jason"
wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military
road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst
the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city
...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my
idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. Just
another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor
proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

The political leanings of the "journalist" are clear
from
the paragraph
that reads:

"The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close
to
present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian
territory
of Gaza."

There was no country named Palestine then, or at any
time
between then
and now. The writer apparently couldn't bring himself to
write "Israel."

Perhaps he's ****ed off that the Zionists invaded the
Levant
in 1948 (and before), causing the displacement of much of
its population.
Quite reasonable, really.

A rhetorical question, but a question nonetheless;

- Do we consider the present day Egyptians when we think
about the
time of the Pharaohs and the Glory that was 'the Kingdom'?

- Do we consider the present day people of 'Palestine' of
the same two
eras, as in- two and three thousand years, and more, have
gone by. Why
are we still hung up on these ancient grudges?

See, I _warned_ you it was rhetorical...


TBerk
btw- why isn't this thread about Pharaonic Astronomy
instead?



Of course it was always "The Kingdom" during times of
extensive inter-marriage of gods and people, something the
ancient Egyptians were very good at. If ten gods were
good, then twenty were twice as good. But then someone
invented a "jealous god" who wanted no competition at all
because he could handle it all; all except racial
integration that is. Accordingly these acolytes and their
schizoid leader were kicked out of 'The Kingdom' to more
northern areas where they murdered ("slew") the existing
population and settled down to argue among themselves - all
resulting in various partitions and disporae. It's all in
the bible which is a collection of scratchings and
scribblings contrived by the guilty to damn the innocent.
Of course this is all purely rhetorical because logic and
reason are irrelevant in religious texts. I dwell in
comfortable obscurity in the southern hemisphere so I can't
see the Pharaonic stars.

On Apr 23, 4:06*pm, Matthew Lybanon wrote:
In article
,





" wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:48*am, "Peter Jason" wrote:
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - 1 day ago

CAIRO (AP) - Archaeologists exploring an old military road
in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the
3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city ...

Somehow 3000-year-old ruins doesn't quite fit with my idea of the word
"new".

"Lost" or "unknown", maybe, but certainly not new. *Just another
examply of journalistic logorrhea and poor proof-reading.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

There was no country named Palestine then, or at any time between then
and now. *The writer apparently couldn't bring himself to write "Israel.."- Hide quoted text -


Israel was a name chosen by a nomadic tribe which settled in
Palestine.

Cormac.