Angular Momentum

Painius could slow spin of the Sun be from not bringing in its
accretion disk fast enough?(like ice skaters do) or having such a great
gravitational mass using Mach idea on the rest of the universe(stars)
creating it to revolve slower and slower over time? Bert

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Painius could slow spin of the Sun be from not bringing in its
accretion disk fast enough?(like ice skaters do) or having such a great
gravitational mass using Mach idea on the rest of the universe(stars)
creating it to revolve slower and slower over time? Bert

Here's my reasoning, Bert...

From what we know (or think we know) about the
origin of our Solar System, it seems pretty obvious
that our Sun spun around furiously at some point,
probably before it became a fusor, a star. And now,
it's just as obvious that the Sun is rotating only very
slowly, such a great mass, 99.8% of the mass of
the entire Solar System, just trudging along at a
very slow rate of spin.

What could have happened to all that furious spin
momentum? I think that at some point, the proto-
Sun spun so fast that the heavier elements, which
must have been pushed out to near the protoSun's
equator, exploded outward from that equator to
form the planetary accretion disk. And when this
event took place, the protoSun almost stopped its
rotation completely. Gravity continued to compress
it, and as it did, the protoSun's spin speed picked
up a little.

Then, by the time the protoSun fused to become a
hydrogen-burning star, enough of the material in
the accretion disk had formed together in large
enough clumps that would stay in their orbits when
the fusing Sun's initial and super-powerful Solar
wind exploded outward. That Solar wind carried
all the remaining small stuff out beyond Neptune to
form the objects in the Kuiper belt.

That's why i think the Sun spins so slowly!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

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On Jul 31, 11:15*am, "Painius" wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote...

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Painius *could slow spin of the Sun be from not bringing in its
accretion disk fast enough?(like ice skaters do) *or having such a great
gravitational mass using Mach idea on the rest of the universe(stars)
creating it to revolve slower and slower over time? *Bert

Here's my reasoning, Bert...

From what we know (or think we know) about the
origin of our Solar System, it seems pretty obvious
that our Sun spun around furiously at some point,
probably before it became a fusor, a star. *And now,
it's just as obvious that the Sun is rotating only very
slowly, such a great mass, 99.8% of the mass of
the entire Solar System, just trudging along at a
very slow rate of spin.

What could have happened to all that furious spin
momentum? *I think that at some point, the proto-
Sun spun so fast that the heavier elements, which
must have been pushed out to near the protoSun's
equator, exploded outward from that equator to
form the planetary accretion disk. *And when this
event took place, the protoSun almost stopped its
rotation completely. Gravity continued to compress
it, and as it did, the protoSun's spin speed picked
up a little.

Then, by the time the protoSun fused to become a
hydrogen-burning star, enough of the material in
the accretion disk had formed together in large
enough clumps that would stay in their orbits when
the fusing Sun's initial and super-powerful Solar
wind exploded outward. *That Solar wind carried
all the remaining small stuff out beyond Neptune to
form the objects in the Kuiper belt.

That's why i think the Sun spins so slowly!

happy days and...
* *starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: *Thank YOU for reading!

P.P.S.: *http://painellsworth.net


It could be that the Sun rotates faster nearer its core than at the
edge of its equator. then its angular momentum would be greater. The
Earth is thought to roatate faster at its sold core, enveloped by
liquid magma, but not by much. The Sun is observed to rotate faster
at the equator than at the poles. Tidal forces can slow the outer
surface of a body down more than the core, if it is fluid.

Double-A

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On Jul 31, 11:15 am, "Painius" wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote...
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Painius could slow spin of the Sun be from not bringing in its
accretion disk fast enough?(like ice skaters do) or having such a great
gravitational mass using Mach idea on the rest of the universe(stars)
creating it to revolve slower and slower over time? Bert

Here's my reasoning, Bert...

From what we know (or think we know) about the
origin of our Solar System, it seems pretty obvious
that our Sun spun around furiously at some point,
probably before it became a fusor, a star. And now,
it's just as obvious that the Sun is rotating only very
slowly, such a great mass, 99.8% of the mass of
the entire Solar System, just trudging along at a
very slow rate of spin.

What could have happened to all that furious spin
momentum? I think that at some point, the proto-
Sun spun so fast that the heavier elements, which
must have been pushed out to near the protoSun's
equator, exploded outward from that equator to
form the planetary accretion disk. And when this
event took place, the protoSun almost stopped its
rotation completely. Gravity continued to compress
it, and as it did, the protoSun's spin speed picked
up a little.

Then, by the time the protoSun fused to become a
hydrogen-burning star, enough of the material in
the accretion disk had formed together in large
enough clumps that would stay in their orbits when
the fusing Sun's initial and super-powerful Solar
wind exploded outward. That Solar wind carried
all the remaining small stuff out beyond Neptune to
form the objects in the Kuiper belt.

That's why i think the Sun spins so slowly!

It could be that the Sun rotates faster nearer its core than at the
edge of its equator. then its angular momentum would be greater. The
Earth is thought to roatate faster at its sold core, enveloped by
liquid magma, but not by much. The Sun is observed to rotate faster
at the equator than at the poles. Tidal forces can slow the outer
surface of a body down more than the core, if it is fluid.

Double-A

I read an interesting article on that subject, AA...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...r_ripples.html

"'The core of the Sun seems to rotate about three to five
times faster (than speeds at the surface) on average,'
Garcia told LiveScience.

"Current theories of solar formation suggest the original
cloud of matter that gave rise to the solar system had a
high rate of rotation, a remnant of which 'could exist in
the deepest regions of the Sun,' Garcia said. 'It seems
that the solar core rotation is slower than expected by
those theories,' he added."

Placing those mainstream theories in deep yogurt, i'd say.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: Thank YOU for reading!

P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net

Painius Could the Sun photosphere be spinning slower than the
convective zone? Could the radiative zone be spinning faster than the
top two zones and the Sun core spinning very fast???? Can Jupiter fast
spin give an answer to the Sun slow spin? Sun is the oldest object in
the solar system. I have slowed down a lot with age. I can relate to my
fast dance spins Now the fastest motion I have is when I fall down.
Maybe the Sun has not fallen into itself enough Bert

On Aug 1, 7:08*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Painius *Could the Sun photosphere be spinning slower than the
convective zone? *Could the radiative zone be spinning faster than the
top two zones and the Sun core spinning very fast???? *Can Jupiter fast
spin give an answer to the Sun slow spin? *Sun is the oldest object in
the solar system. I have slowed down a lot with age. I can relate to my
fast dance spins *Now the fastest motion I have is when I fall down.
Maybe the Sun has not fallen into itself enough * Bert


It will.

Double-A

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote...
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Painius Could the Sun photosphere be spinning slower than the
convective zone? Could the radiative zone be spinning faster than the
top two zones and the Sun core spinning very fast???? Can Jupiter fast
spin give an answer to the Sun slow spin? Sun is the oldest object in
the solar system. I have slowed down a lot with age. I can relate to my
fast dance spins Now the fastest motion I have is when I fall down.
Maybe the Sun has not fallen into itself enough Bert

Good questions!

The fastest motion i have is still my left hand, buddy.

Talk about yer S P I N momentum! g

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: Thank YOU for reading!

P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net

On Jul 31, 11:15*am, "Painius" wrote:

What could have happened to all that furious spin
momentum? *I think that at some point, the proto-
Sun spun so fast that the heavier elements, which
must have been pushed out to near the protoSun's
equator, exploded outward from that equator to
form the planetary accretion disk.

Heh. Not that i agree, but as mentioned in a prior discussion of this
subject, such an outbound explosion along the equatorial plane would
be a small-scale analog of the CBB "explosion" (actually a 'snapshot
in time' of the expansion phase of the CBB process).

And when this
event took place, the protoSun almost stopped its
rotation completely. Gravity continued to compress
it, and as it did, the protoSun's spin speed picked
up a little.

Lively speculation, amigo. But if there were such a thing as a
(spinning) BH reaching criticality and exploding in such a 'one shot'
event, it would have to be an equatorial explosion. This was discussed
here years ago, possibly before your appearance on the scene. Wolter
had hypothesized such a 'one-shot' BH event wherein if the *tangental
velocity* at the singularity's rim reached c, it would explode a ring
of newly-creatred mass back into 'our' reality. The ejected ring would
travel outward equatorially from the BH. This would drop the spin
below c, making the BH quiescent again.