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![]() On Jul 6, 10:32 pm, Lin Liangtai wrote to several news groups: His headline: NASA is trying to shake loose Martian fossil bone tissue Fig. 1 shows nine arrows pointing to vertical blood vessel remains in nine fossil osteons ( bone tissue) in a trench named Snow White. NASA says the white color area is where water ice is, although it is non-continuous and very small in size. NASA plans to scoop up the water ice there on July 8 to put it into an oven for testing. As the soil (containing water ice) is unusually clumpy, NASA plans to shake the soil until it passes the 1mm holes of a screen above the oven, just as NASA did last time. Such shaking could damage related instruments. Have you heard of shaking loose bone tissues, fossilized or not? Couldn't NASA find someone who knows about bone basics? Fig. 1: http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...1555082227&p=0 Source of Fig. 1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonh...ho/2643489032/ ========================= Response by Osher Doctorow ): Lin Liangtai, I notice that you give .tw in your email address, so you're apparently from Taiwan. NASA has done a lot of good things, but there is a strong tendency especially among engineers to "do-it-yourself" without consulting outsiders, or at most consulting internal "insiders" belonging to whatever disciplines or fields have been hired already. I discussed that some years ago with my wife's uncle, who was a retired manager from Hughes Aircraft, and I asked him whether inventions and discoveries could not be accelerated very much if more interdisciplinary people and "second opinions" even in the same discipline were hired, especially with very different viewpoints, and he answered rather indirectly, "No." He was an old man even then, and now that I am 69 years old and realize how little Big Corporations and Big Government in the USA care about interdisciplinary work and highly divergent opinions, as well as ignoring a large number of Seniors with accumulated Wisdom and Experience who have retired. I think that he had just given up hope. He was a Monarchist who believed in the Tsar of Russia, and from what I have seen from the ineptitude of Civilian Democracy in Wartime in fighting Terrorism and enemy propaganda, he was probably even right about Monarchy at least in Wartime. ============================ This is Ed Conrad's posting in reference to Lin Liangtai's original posting about his discovery of a blood vessel in reddish dirt during the Mars Rover project: Lin Liangtai , an honest and courageous scientific investigator in Taipei, Taiwan, posted the following DYNAMITE message to the sci.med newsgroup. IT DESERVES A LOT MORE ATTENTION -- and we'll make sure that it gets it. ================================ THE ORIGINAL POSTING BY LIN LIANGTAI ================================ Newsgroups: sci.med From: Lin Liangtai Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 2:13 am Subject: Ed's fossilized blood vessel found on Mars NASA just released a micrograph showing a vessel-like object (Fig. 1) in the scoop of Phoenix Mars Lander. That object closely resembles blood vessel remains found in a Carboniferous human calvarium fossil owned by Mr. Ed Conrad of Shenandoah, Pennsylvania (Fig. 2 for comparison). The amazing thing is these two fossils are wonderfully preserved for 3 bllion years and 300 million years, respectively. Who can do that? Fig. 1: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ph...RAC_SSI_PR_Sol... Fig. 2: http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...328514833&p=36 =========================== Lin Liangtai's intensive research performed on photos, etc., released by NASA, indicates that Mars definitely once had life. And, based on remarkable photos that appear to reveal the remnants of handmade structures and possibly even cities, it must have included INTELLIGENT LIFE (something sorely lacking on Planet Earthling).. 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On Jul 7, 11:39 am, wrote:
On Jul 6, 10:32 pm, Lin Liangtai wrote to several news groups: His headline: NASA is trying to shake loose Martian fossil bone tissue BS, no such thing. |
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