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Old April 20th 08, 10:23 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
adam eddy
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Is it possible to have 250-mpg mileage with hybrid cars? Yes, Bellevue
auto visionaries' thinks so. The people owning Toyota Prius and Honda
hybrid cars are eyeing for an mpg of 40 to 50 then how a automaker
claims to have technology that can give this high mileage. What
technology they are using? Let us try to look at answers of these
questions.
20 member team at AFS Trinity Power Corp claims to make this possible
with their plug in hybrid car. On technology front, they are going to
use flywheel to create and store power. Conventional cars use gasoline
engine to power the vehicle whereas hybrid cars use gasoline engine
with battery support. However, the claimed car will use gasoline
engine, battery source with flywheel or a capacitor. The power load is
shifted among these sources according to the requirement.
The flywheel will help the car in two ways i.e firstly it will help
the car in the time of acceleration and secondly it will absorb the
power which is being wasted while braking. It will also help the car
to use lesser number and lighter batteries. This will collectively
help to reduce the overall weight of the car. Flywheel or capacitor is
said to absorb power efficiently and quickly....

http://groups.google.com/group/waterforfueld
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Old April 21st 08, 02:52 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
John A. Weeks III
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Default Hybrid Cars with 250 MPG Fuel Mileage

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adam eddy wrote:

Is it possible to have 250-mpg mileage with hybrid cars? Yes, Bellevue
auto visionaries' thinks so. The people owning Toyota Prius and Honda
hybrid cars are eyeing for an mpg of 40 to 50 then how a automaker
claims to have technology that can give this high mileage. What
technology they are using? Let us try to look at answers of these
questions.


That is a BS claim. If you are not burning gas, then you are
not running in a mode where miles per gallon makes any sense.
Please be honest when you state these claims, and say that
X miles comes from battery, and Y miles comes from gasoline
at Z miles per gallon.

-john-

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Old April 23rd 08, 05:38 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
BradGuth
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Default Hybrid Cars with 250 MPG Fuel Mileage

On Apr 20, 2:23 am, adam eddy wrote:
Is it possible to have 250-mpg mileage with hybrid cars? Yes, Bellevue
auto visionaries' thinks so. The people owning Toyota Prius and Honda
hybrid cars are eyeing for an mpg of 40 to 50 then how a automaker
claims to have technology that can give this high mileage. What
technology they are using? Let us try to look at answers of these
questions.
20 member team at AFS Trinity Power Corp claims to make this possible
with their plug in hybrid car. On technology front, they are going to
use flywheel to create and store power. Conventional cars use gasoline
engine to power the vehicle whereas hybrid cars use gasoline engine
with battery support. However, the claimed car will use gasoline
engine, battery source with flywheel or a capacitor. The power load is
shifted among these sources according to the requirement.
The flywheel will help the car in two ways i.e firstly it will help
the car in the time of acceleration and secondly it will absorb the
power which is being wasted while braking. It will also help the car
to use lesser number and lighter batteries. This will collectively
help to reduce the overall weight of the car. Flywheel or capacitor is
said to absorb power efficiently and quickly....

http://groups.google.com/group/waterforfueld


200 empg is doable, though as hybrid and of consuming h2o2 instead of
atmosphere, along with that small amount of fossil/synfuel that'll
deliver 200 empg.
.. - Brad Guth
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Old May 3rd 08, 03:30 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
Boris NoGoodnik
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Default Hybrid Cars with 250 MPG Fuel Mileage

Not sure about these claims. What kind of car first? Weight/size. Hybrid
technology has only one way to conserve the energy. It's sending the energy
of breaking into some kind of storage. Battery/flywheel/capacitor. It's
still leaves aerodynamic drag and friction. Also efficiency of energy
storage/conversion is under question.

On a flat straight segment of highway under same condition hybrid car should
use the same amount of gas as any other car. Or likely even more,
considering the losses in mechanical-electric-mechanical conversion.
Especially considering that hybrid will have to carry great weight of the
batteries and other extra equipment.


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Old May 11th 08, 12:00 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
BradGuth
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Default Hybrid Cars with 250 MPG Fuel Mileage

On May 2, 7:30 pm, "Boris Nogoodnik" wrote:
Not sure about these claims. What kind of car first? Weight/size. Hybrid
technology has only one way to conserve the energy. It's sending the energy
of breaking into some kind of storage. Battery/flywheel/capacitor. It's
still leaves aerodynamic drag and friction. Also efficiency of energy
storage/conversion is under question.

On a flat straight segment of highway under same condition hybrid car should
use the same amount of gas as any other car. Or likely even more,
considering the losses in mechanical-electric-mechanical conversion.
Especially considering that hybrid will have to carry great weight of the
batteries and other extra equipment.


200 empg has been accomplished in a small 4 passenger car, although
that excludes most fat Americans and requires spendy batteries and a
very small but efficient ICE.

I can do 200 empg without giving up interior space or performance, as
well as without using a conventional battery method of stored energy,
and it's also without contributing NOx.
.. - Brad Guth
 




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