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Old September 2nd 07, 03:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Theodora Deski
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Wikipedia does not have information on relativistic protons (that I can
find). Can anyone give information on this? The article I am looking
at more or less says they are the energy pushing the universe apart. I
know what protons are but what are relativistic protons? thank you for
any info !!


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Old September 2nd 07, 04:01 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
shawn
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Theodora Deski wrote:
Wikipedia does not have information on relativistic protons (that I can
find). Can anyone give information on this? The article I am looking
at more or less says they are the energy pushing the universe apart. I
know what protons are but what are relativistic protons? thank you for
any info !!



Try this for a primer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

Nothing about protons though.

High energy protons are included in the set of particles that make up
cosmic rays. However I've never heard of a connection to dark energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_rays


Shawn
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Old September 2nd 07, 04:37 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36
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On Sep 2, 4:01 pm, shawn wrote:
Theodora Deski wrote:
Wikipedia does not have information on relativistic protons (that I can
find). Can anyone give information on this? The article I am looking
at more or less says they are the energy pushing the universe apart. I
know what protons are but what are relativistic protons? thank you for
any info !!


Try this for a primer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

Nothing about protons though.

High energy protons are included in the set of particles that make up
cosmic rays. However I've never heard of a connection to dark energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_rays

Shawn


The only primer he will ever need is the 'Time Machine ' science
fiction novel from 1898 -

"Scientific people,' proceeded the Time Traveller, after the pause
required for the proper assimilation of this, 'know very well that
Time is only a kind of Space" H.G. Well's narrative

http://www.bartleby.com/1000/1.html

All that relativistic cobblers of the last century goes right back to
the original error created by Flamsteed and built on by Newton -

"Absolute time, in astronomy, is distinguished from relative, by the
equation or correlation of the vulgar time. For the natural days are
truly unequal, though they are commonly considered as equal and used
for a measure of time; astronomers correct this inequality for their
more accurate deducing of the celestial motions."

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/...tions.htm#time

So,it all goes back to the Equation of Time,the 24 hour day and the
natural noon cycles.Although Newton accurately expresses the Equation
of Time in his idiosyncratic absolute/relative time way,his framework
was the astrological framework of Flamsteed.

In short,grow up,if people's concerns at the beginning of the last
centuries were time travel machines ect,this era is concerned with
climate and a deep need to understand what is going on.To understand
global climate and the seasons you have to know the difference between
the total length of the natural noon cycles and hemispherical
variations in daylight/darkness or the common seasonal term
'lengthening and shortening ' of civil daylight.








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Old September 3rd 07, 07:07 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Isaac
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oriel36 wrote:

On Sep 2, 4:01 pm, shawn wrote:
Theodora Deski wrote:
Wikipedia does not have information on relativistic protons (that I can
find). Can anyone give information on this? The article I am looking
at more or less says they are the energy pushing the universe apart. I
know what protons are but what are relativistic protons? thank you for
any info !!


Try this for a primer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

Nothing about protons though.

High energy protons are included in the set of particles that make up
cosmic rays. However I've never heard of a connection to dark energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_rays

Shawn


The only primer he will ever need is the 'Time Machine ' science
fiction novel from 1898 -

"Scientific people,' proceeded the Time Traveller, after the pause
required for the proper assimilation of this, 'know very well that
Time is only a kind of Space" H.G. Well's narrative

http://www.bartleby.com/1000/1.html

All that relativistic cobblers of the last century goes right back to
the original error created by Flamsteed and built on by Newton -

"Absolute time, in astronomy, is distinguished from relative, by the
equation or correlation of the vulgar time. For the natural days are
truly unequal, though they are commonly considered as equal and used
for a measure of time; astronomers correct this inequality for their
more accurate deducing of the celestial motions."

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/...tions.htm#time

So,it all goes back to the Equation of Time,the 24 hour day and the
natural noon cycles.Although Newton accurately expresses the Equation
of Time in his idiosyncratic absolute/relative time way,his framework
was the astrological framework of Flamsteed.

In short,grow up,if people's concerns at the beginning of the last
centuries were time travel machines ect,this era is concerned with
climate and a deep need to understand what is going on.To understand
global climate and the seasons you have to know the difference between
the total length of the natural noon cycles and hemispherical
variations in daylight/darkness or the common seasonal term
'lengthening and shortening ' of civil daylight.


To you there is much gobble de gouk! Shove lambs head up
ass. Sure curre!



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Old September 6th 07, 07:47 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Theodora Deski
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thank you Bud for answering...I found it actually in wikipedia after all
as meaning the speed of light. here is the article that I was trying to
undertand.
http://newsblaze.com/story/200708201...p-Stories.html

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Old September 6th 07, 09:06 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36
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On Sep 6, 7:47 pm, (Theodora Deski) wrote:
thank you Bud for answering...I found it actually in wikipedia after all
as meaning the speed of light. here is the article that I was trying to
undertand.http://newsblaze.com/story/200708201...aze/TOPSTORY/T...


The real scientific misconduct of Piltdown man does not belong to the
perpetrator of the hoax but rather to the people who chose to continue
believing in it because it suited preconceived notions.Other than
setting up a neon sign telling his colleagues that it was a joke gone
astray his 'cricket bat' should have been enough but they kept it
going for almost 4 decades -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6054656.stm

The second generation astronomical misconduct continues unabated as
enormous amounts of effort and money are spent trying to prove
notions of the universe based on zodiacal geometry created by the
first generation guys such as Flamsteed and Newton -

http://www.space.com/news/070905_nas...deinstein.html

With most of humanity over the age of 30 seeing climate change
dramatically,the astronomical effort should be to look back at the
Earth from space and give a proper explanation for the seasons along
with the background global climate as one productive avenue among
many.

Perhaps people do object to money being spent on people who cannot
even explain the relationship between clocks and the axial cycle
correctly or rather found their notions on 'sidereal time' motions of
the Earth that simply do not exist but judging by the recommendations
sent to Nasa,it looks like less than responsible people want to keep
the charade going at the expense of genuine astronomy -

http://www.space.com/news/070905_nas...deinstein.html











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Old September 4th 07, 01:42 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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Theodora Deski wrote:
I
know what protons are but what are relativistic protons?


A relativistic proton is simply a proton that moves so quickly that
the effects predicted by the Special Theory of Relativity are
noticeable.

This web page

http://resources.yesican-science.ca/..._general2.html

shows two graphs of the energy of a proton in electron volts against
its velocity as a fraction of the speed of light:

According to the second of those graphs, a proton with an energy of 1
GeV travels at 80% of the speed of light.

John Savard

 




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