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"A longtime skeptic about relativity, Beckmann a few years ago proposed a rival theory of physics which, he claims, fits the known facts and explains them much more simply than Einstein's. Before publishing his theory in a book (Einstein Plus Two, 1987) he sent the manuscript to Howard Hayden at Storrs, Connecticut. Hayden's initial reaction was near-disbelief that the velocity of light had not already been demonstrated to be invariant. But eventually he became convinced that Beckmann was right. In 1988, he devised an experimental test of Beckmann's theory. His preliminary results support Beckmann, raising the question whether there are any experimental observations which require relativity theory to explain them. Toward the end of the nineteenth century, the evidence that light travels in a wave became overwhelming. Just as sound waves need air to travel in, so light would need a medium, if it traveled in waves. This hypothetical medium was called the ether, and a famous experiment by Michelson and Morley, performed in Cleveland in 1887, was expected to demonstrate its existence. Since the Earth must be passing through this ether on its journey around the sun, everyone assumed it would be possible to detect the ether wind" with a suitable apparatus, just as it is possible to detect the air from a moving car by putting your hand out into the breeze. In the 1880s Michelson devised an experiment sensitive enough, in theory, to produce a measurable effect. But no matter how many times they tried, Michelson and Morley could detect no ethereal breeze. (In their experiment, this had been expected to take the form of a shift in the interference pattern visible where criss-crossing light rays came together.) Various explanations for the null result were suggested. Michelson himself supposed that the ether was "entrained," which is to say carried along with the Earth. As we shall see, this may have been a close approximation to the truth. But the entrained-ether theory was rejected by most scientists. The physicists G. F. FitzGerald and H. A. Lorentz suggested another possibility: that moving objects contract slightly in the direction of motion-the contraction being just sufficient to account for the null result. This was ingenious, but unsatisfactory. It had the ad-hoc look of an unfalsifiable assumption, rather like the suggestion that everything in the universe is getting bigger at the same time. Then in 1905, in his special theory of relativity, Einstein suggested a third way of looking at the matter. He proposed a) that the speed of light is the same in all directions, irrespective of the motion of any apparatus set up to measure it; and b) that observers traveling with different velocities would see the same things with different lengths and durations. This eliminated the need for an ether altogether. Einstein's famous paper showed that everything could be worked out mathematically if these peculiar assumptions about the universe were made. This was a very odd procedure. Einstein bent" space and time so that a velocity could be preserved as a constant. But velocity itself is merely distance divided by time. Discarding space and time as "absolutes" so that a velocity can be retained as an absolute is as strange as it would be for a man to go on living undisturbed on the second floor of his house while the basement and ground floor were completely remodeled. Einstein's assumption about the invariant velocity of light emerged from the turn-of-the-century quandary of physicists trying to account for the Michelson-Morley result. But if it turns out that there is a simpler way of explaining what really happened, we should, out of deference to the simplicity that is preferred by science, discard the premise that the speed of light is invariant. We should (everything else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the classical world view of Isaac Newton." http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer. It seems that Einstein criminal cult are trying to introduce the emission theory without abandoning Einstein officially: http://www.chapitre.com/CHAPITRE/fr/...pel=CHAPIT RE Pentcho Valev |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev
wrote: We should (everything else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the classical world view of Isaac Newton." Something along those lines is examined in he On the Consistency between the Assumption of a Special System of Reference and Special Relativity Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow Galilean transformations between coordinates. Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer. Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? -- Surfer |
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![]() Surfer wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote: We should (everything else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the classical world view of Isaac Newton." Something along those lines is examined in he On the Consistency between the Assumption of a Special System of Reference and Special Relativity Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow Galilean transformations between coordinates. Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer. Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka are not enough? Pentcho Valev |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:31:08 -0700, Pentcho Valev
wrote: Surfer wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote: We should (everything else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the classical world view of Isaac Newton." Something along those lines is examined in he On the Consistency between the Assumption of a Special System of Reference and Special Relativity Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow Galilean transformations between coordinates. Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer. Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka are not enough? In what way are they relevant? Eg. Have any papers been written that use the emission theory of light to analyse these experiments? -- Surfer |
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![]() "Surfer" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:31:08 -0700, Pentcho Valev : wrote: : : : Surfer wrote: : On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev : wrote: : : : We should (everything : else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave : phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and : time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the : classical world view of Isaac Newton." : : Something along those lines is examined in he : : On the Consistency between the Assumption of a : Special System of Reference and Special Relativity : Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 : http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf : : See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" : : It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically : compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow : Galilean transformations between coordinates. : : Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. : : : http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John : Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence : for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost : universally use it as support for the light postulate of special : relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH : AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." : : The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is : invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, : relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light : source and the observer. : : : Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? : : Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka are not enough? : : In what way are they relevant? : : Eg. Have any papers been written that use the emission theory of light : to analyse these experiments? Yes. Here's one: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mx4dummies.htm Here's another: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...nac/Sagnac.htm |
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On 27 jun, 08:04, "Androcles" wrote:
"Surfer" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:31:08 -0700, Pentcho Valev : wrote: : : : Surfer wrote: : On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev : wrote: : : : We should (everything : else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave : phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and : time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the : classical world view of Isaac Newton." : : Something along those lines is examined in he : : On the Consistency between the Assumption of a : Special System of Reference and Special Relativity : Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 : http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf : : See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" : : It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically : compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow : Galilean transformations between coordinates. : : Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. : : : http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch...Norton.pdfJohn : Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence : for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost : universally use it as support for the light postulate of special : relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH : AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." : : The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is : invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, : relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light : source and the observer. : : : Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? : : Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka are not enough? : : In what way are they relevant? : : Eg. Have any papers been written that use the emission theory of light : to analyse these experiments? Yes. Here's one: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mx4dummies.htm Here's another: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...nac/Sagnac.htm Hello Androcles. I revised your papers. Have you someone in Pound and Rebka (P&R) experiment? RVHG (Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato) |
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![]() Surfer wrote: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:31:08 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote: Surfer wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote: We should (everything else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the classical world view of Isaac Newton." Something along those lines is examined in he On the Consistency between the Assumption of a Special System of Reference and Special Relativity Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow Galilean transformations between coordinates. Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer. Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka are not enough? In what way are they relevant? Eg. Have any papers been written that use the emission theory of light to analyse these experiments? No. Rather, countless papers have been written declaring that Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka gloriously confirm Einstein's relativity. Einstein's world is like Big Brother's world: http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ George Orwell "1984": "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?" Pentcho Valev |
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![]() "Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ups.com... : : Surfer wrote: : On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:31:08 -0700, Pentcho Valev : wrote: : : : Surfer wrote: : On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev : wrote: : : : We should (everything : else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave : phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and : time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the : classical world view of Isaac Newton." : : Something along those lines is examined in he : : On the Consistency between the Assumption of a : Special System of Reference and Special Relativity : Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 : http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf : : See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" : : It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically : compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow : Galilean transformations between coordinates. : : Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. : : : http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John : Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence : for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost : universally use it as support for the light postulate of special : relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH : AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." : : The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is : invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, : relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light : source and the observer. : : : Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? : : Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka are not enough? : : In what way are they relevant? : : Eg. Have any papers been written that use the emission theory of light : to analyse these experiments? : : No. Yes they have! I wrote one. So did Fox in 1965. How hard is it to "analyse" the Principle of Relativity? http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/PoR/PoR.htm [irrelevancy snipped] |
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![]() Pentcho Valev wrote: Surfer wrote: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:31:08 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote: Surfer wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:14 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote: We should (everything else being equal) prefer the notion that light behaves like other wave phenomena (such as sound). This would allow us to bring back space and time as absolutes. And it would, to a large extent, restore the classical world view of Isaac Newton." Something along those lines is examined in he On the Consistency between the Assumption of a Special System of Reference and Special Relativity Foundations of Physics,Vol.36,No.12,December 2006 http://web.ist.utl.pt/d3264/publicat/art16.pdf See "3.A FORMAL GALILEO TRANSFORMATION" It shows how clocks and rulers could be defined that automatically compenstate for time dilation/length contraction etc., to allow Galilean transformations between coordinates. Unfortunately, such devices appear too difficult to build. http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch.../02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." The emission theory of light states that the speed of light is invariant, c, relative to the light source, but is variable, c'=c+v, relative to the observer, where v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer. Are there any experiments which demonstrate this? Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka are not enough? In what way are they relevant? Eg. Have any papers been written that use the emission theory of light to analyse these experiments? No. Rather, countless papers have been written declaring that Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka gloriously confirm Einstein's relativity. Einstein's world is like Big Brother's world: http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ George Orwell "1984": "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?" That Michelson-Morley is consistent with the emission theory is almost obvious; all hypnotists in Einstein criminal cult would admit this when asked directly. When they are not asked however they always sing the same misleading song: http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/dice.html Stephen Hawking: "Both Mitchell and Laplace thought of light as consisting of particles, rather like cannon balls, that could be slowed down by gravity, and made to fall back on the star. But A FAMOUS EXPERIMENT, carried out by two Americans, Michelson and Morley in 1887, SHOWED THAT LIGHT ALWAYS TRAVELLED AT A SPEED OF ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND MILES A SECOND, NO MATTER WHERE IT CAME FROM." As for Pound-Rebka, the analysis is easy. The result they obtained, f'=f(1+V/c^2), where f is the frequency, is consistent with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) which is equivalent to c'=c+v. If c'=c+v were wrong and c'=c were the correct equation, Pound and Rebka would have obtained f'=f. Pentcho Valev |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:40:02 -0700, Pentcho Valev
wrote: ...countless papers have been written declaring that Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka gloriously confirm Einstein's relativity. Einstein's world is like Big Brother's world: You have a point. But are you aware of the following paper? "The Michelson and Morley 1887 Experiment and the Discovery of 3- Space and Absolute Motion" Cahill R.T. Australian Physics, 46, 196-202, Jan/Feb 2006. There is a related paper he Dynamical 3-Space: A Review http://aps.arxiv.org/abs/0705.4146 Some quotes: "In 2002 it was discovered that a dynamical 3-space had been detected many times, including by the Michelson-Morley 1887 light-speed anisotropy experiment." "Michelson and Morley in 1887 should have announced that the speed of light did depend of the direction of travel, that the speed was relative to an actual physical 3-space." "It was Miller [3] who recognised that in the 1887 paper the theory for the Michelson interferometer must be wrong. To avoid using that theory Miller introduced the scaling factor k , even though he had no theory for its value." "By making some 8,000 rotations of the interferometer at Mt. Wilson in 1925/26 Miller determined the first estimate for k and for the absolute linear velocity of the solar system." "Such rotation-induced fringe shifts clearly show that the speed of light is different in different directions. The claim that Michelson interferometers, operating in gas-mode, do not produce fringe shifts under rotation is clearly incorrect." Don't you think this shows that Einstein's world is not entirely like Big Brother's world? -- Surfer |
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