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From BusinessWeek, http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_25/b3888046_mz011.htm:
'In 15 years, he [Rutan] predicts, "space tourism will be a multibillion-dollar business." By year end he plans to hand Allen a business plan and designs for commercial space ferries that could hold 6 or 12 tourists and whisk them into space once or even twice a day.' This is the first time I've seen a clear claim that Rutan and Allen are planning commercial tourist craft to follow their SS1 demonstrator. I find that quite interesting. ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' |
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"Joe Strout" wrote in message
... From BusinessWeek, http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_25/b3888046_mz011.htm: 'In 15 years, he [Rutan] predicts, "space tourism will be a multibillion-dollar business." By year end he plans to hand Allen a business plan and designs for commercial space ferries that could hold 6 or 12 tourists and whisk them into space once or even twice a day.' This is the first time I've seen a clear claim that Rutan and Allen are planning commercial tourist craft to follow their SS1 demonstrator. I find that quite interesting. Considering the small size of the X-Prize, I'd be surprised if they didn't have, at least, a vision of this happening. Even if they win the prize, I'm sure they will have spent more than $10 million on this project. The only way to ever get your money's worth out of this is to turn it into a fully commercial enterprise with follow-on vehicles. It would seem to be appropriate to develop and present such plans after your technology demonstrator proves the concept. Jeff -- Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. |
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"Jeff Findley" wrote: Considering the small size of the X-Prize, I'd be surprised if they didn't have, at least, a vision of this happening. Even if they win the prize, I'm sure they will have spent more than $10 million on this project. The only way to ever get your money's worth out of this is to turn it into a fully commercial enterprise with follow-on vehicles. All true -- apparently Allen has spent about $25M on SS1 -- but it was never certain that he ever intended to get his money's worth out of it. He may have been doing it for a lark, or for the thrill of the contest, or just because he's a space buff and wants to go into space himself. So I'm glad to see some confirmation (from what seems like a reasonably reliable source) that there is more planned. It would seem to be appropriate to develop and present such plans after your technology demonstrator proves the concept. Quite so. I can't wait to see what comes next! ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' |
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Joe Strout :
In article , "Jeff Findley" wrote: Considering the small size of the X-Prize, I'd be surprised if they didn't have, at least, a vision of this happening. Even if they win the prize, I'm sure they will have spent more than $10 million on this project. The only way to ever get your money's worth out of this is to turn it into a fully commercial enterprise with follow-on vehicles. All true -- apparently Allen has spent about $25M on SS1 -- but it was never certain that he ever intended to get his money's worth out of it. He may have been doing it for a lark, or for the thrill of the contest, or just because he's a space buff and wants to go into space himself. So I'm glad to see some confirmation (from what seems like a reasonably reliable source) that there is more planned. It would seem to be appropriate to develop and present such plans after your technology demonstrator proves the concept. Quite so. I can't wait to see what comes next! I am not sure the present design will scale up well for six or more people but :- Just remember if it is a B. Rutan design your first words will probably be: "Huh! How the #%^*$ is that thing going to work?" Then you will get a blinding flash of light in your mind as the design sinks in followed with: "Neat!" or "Cool!", your choice. Earl Colby Pottinger -- I make public email sent to me! Hydrogen Peroxide Rockets, OpenBeos, SerialTransfer 3.0, RAMDISK, BoatBuilding, DIY TabletPC. What happened to the time? http://webhome.idirect.com/~earlcp |
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![]() "Earl Colby Pottinger" wrote in message ... Joe Strout : In article , "Jeff Findley" wrote: It would seem to be appropriate to develop and present such plans after your technology demonstrator proves the concept. Quite so. I can't wait to see what comes next! I am not sure the present design will scale up well for six or more people but :- Just remember if it is a B. Rutan design your first words will probably be: "Huh! How the #%^*$ is that thing going to work?" Then you will get a blinding flash of light in your mind as the design sinks in followed with: "Neat!" or "Cool!", your choice. If we're talking about the same flight profile (carrier aircraft lifts hybrid powered spacecraft which is dropped and ascends to 100 km), what would need to be different, aside from scaling the design up by a factor of two? Jeff -- Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. |
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Jeff Findley wrote: If we're talking about the same flight profile (carrier aircraft lifts hybrid powered spacecraft which is dropped and ascends to 100 km), what would need to be different, aside from scaling the design up by a factor of two? Lose the stupid portholes, so you don't need a chase aircraft as an escort because of lousy cockpit view. -- "Think outside the box -- the box isn't our friend." | Henry Spencer -- George Herbert | |
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"Jeff Findley" wrote:
If we're talking about the same flight profile (carrier aircraft lifts hybrid powered spacecraft which is dropped and ascends to 100 km), what would need to be different, aside from scaling the design up by a factor of two? Refinements for even faster turnaround than SS1. A significantly upgraded passenger cabin, with "comfort" features (like a vomit vacuum system) and lots of video cameras. More windows. |
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"Jeff Findley" :
If we're talking about the same flight profile (carrier aircraft lifts hybrid powered spacecraft which is dropped and ascends to 100 km), what would need to be different, aside from scaling the design up by a factor of two? Jeff Call me dumb if you want as I am no R.B. but I think/feel that some changes in the carrier craft will be needed to carry a heavier craft. Most aircraft design can not be simply scaled up without changing something. A large craft will need more powerful engines or more of them for example. More engines means changes ofcourse, more powerful engines probably will not find an exact scaled up match so some changes there. Besides it still is R.B., why scale up when he can design a newer better machine to blow our minds ![]() live on Earth, He lives in a world of flight and hydrodymanics. Earl Colby Pottinger -- I make public email sent to me! Hydrogen Peroxide Rockets, OpenBeos, SerialTransfer 3.0, RAMDISK, BoatBuilding, DIY TabletPC. What happened to the time? http://webhome.idirect.com/~earlcp |
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