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Old December 10th 06, 04:58 AM posted to sci.astro
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Default General Black Hole theory

The key is in the gravitational forces, as a black hole is a
gravitational phenomena.

So defining what a gravitational force is, besides our perception
of gravity as being a force that sets matter into motion and a
force that bends light.

A black hole is an object whose gravity is so strong, that
nothing can escape its gravitational pull, not even light, and
mathematically its been calculated that objects that have mass
great enough to collapse into a black hole, may do so upon the
nuclear burnout of the object.

However there are physics that demonstrate, that objects that
are to collapse into black holes, may run into a gravitational
field transformation.

First of all, the nature of mass at large masses may give
rise to a circulating flow of mass under high gravitational
conditions, something found along magnets. The object
becomes highly magnetic and highly charged under
high pressures.

Gravity and magnetism have common properties, properties
that pull. Magnetism effects electrons, and metallic substances
that easily exchange electrons.

Gravity effects mass of atoms, and black holes may generate
a highly electrically charged condition. Such charges may
be observed in spiral galaxies or quasars that are active and
eject electrons in two north-south-bound directions. This is
the place Steven Hawkings researches black holes.

One is still missing the explanation of a gravitational force
and gravitational force transformations.

We see that a gravitational force arises upon the presence
of mass.

Based on this simple logic, one derives the possibility of
black holes.

But gravity is not that simple, because how does mass
make it work like that at great distances? Einstein explained
it with wells, dwellings on a sheet, and he explained that
space curves with the presence of mass, that objects move
along straight geodesic lines and upon moving into the
proximity of mass, the objects gains speed.

The proximity of mass. A gravitational phenomena. Mass
pulls, by warping space in a one directional, in a somewhat
magnetic type way over great distances, and the gravitational
field's strength corresponds with the amount of mass.

But what if we detect the presence of such strong
gravitational fields which correspond with a black hole, but
we find no presence of a black hole there, meaning we can't
really measure it as a mass that is not there, because we
measure that the black hole is there.

Just recently the Chinese announced that they are detecting
the presence of a certain black hole in the center of our galaxy.

Based on all this, there is not much to the general black hole
theory, as a black hole refers to an object that has become
so compact and massive, that nothing can escape it's pull,
not even light.

There are observations that prove otherwise.

The energy of a black hole is there, but upon close observation,
there is no sign of a black hole.

One interesting finding was announced by a researcher studying
the X-Rays of a quasar for many years, he found that the X-Rays
predicted by black hole theories were not found in an active
quasar's nucleus. There were no X-Rays produced that would
correspond with a black hole there, where most astrophysicists
expected to find a super-massive black hole.

Again, measurements of gravity predict a black hole there, but
there is no black hole to be found there.

Also other measurements of jets emitted from the nucleus of
active galaxies showed that the magnetic fields of these jets
had nothing to do with the shape of the magnetic fields predicted
by black hole theories.

So there are general gravity theories that predict black holes,
and based on these general gravity theories scientists arrive
to models how these general gravity theories should correspond
in regards to black hole formations, but upon measurements,
scientists find a different thing happening.

So where can one look to explain where that black hole is
that upon close observation is not found.

Well, as with electrostatic properties, high pressures generate
physical processes. One might imagine that a black hole is
gravitationally charged. Charged. And what happens with charged
electromagnetism? Things spark, pop, shoot out and discharges
occur. These discharges in black holes are imagined as being
full of gravitational warps, and may occur through wormholes,
since spacetime here is completely warped with energies
shooting out.

A black hole may be a lot more active than being black with
nothing escaping it gravitationally, spacetime warps and
discharges may occur, especially in environments where
jets are produced, where everything is so charged due to
the concentration of mass. And I mean in such places
everything is charged.

So before the concentration of mass would collapse into
a blackhole, discharges occur warping space in such ways
that while the mass is there, spacetime warps in such ways
that the black hole is not found there. Mass discharges under
high gravitational pressures, by forming wormholes.

How can mass discharge? As with all physics, high pressures
correspond with discharges, or an equilibrium is saught between
regions of high and low charges.

Overall, black holes are charged environments. In charged
environments things behave strangely.

The General Black Hole theory claims this strangeness for
now, a physics that corresponds with the measurements
of mass corresponding with the accumulation of mass in
a black hole (for a region of space), but the mass measured
from a distance does not correspond with the actual mass
that is there.

And where else is there another case for not matching mass
with the mass visible: dark energy in spiral galaxies.

As many as 9 times the mass of our galaxy is not visible.

It is told that what holds our galaxy together from flying
apart is dark energy.

One thing can be assumed, is that near the center of the
galaxy there is a lot higher accumulation of dark energy
than at the edge of the galaxy.

This mystic mass of dark matter works this way. Don't ask
me how I know that.

Black holes warp energy throughout our galaxy as dark
matter energy.

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Old December 10th 06, 05:20 AM posted to sci.astro
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Default General Black Hole theory

The key is in the gravitational forces, as a black hole is a
gravitational phenomena.

So defining what a gravitational force is, besides our perception
of gravity as being a force that sets matter into motion and a
force that bends light.

A black hole is an object whose gravity is so strong, that
nothing can escape its gravitational pull, not even light, and
mathematically its been calculated that objects that have mass
great enough to collapse into a black hole, may do so upon the
nuclear burnout of the object.

However there are physics that demonstrate, that objects that
are to collapse into black holes, may run into a gravitational
field transformation.

First of all, the nature of mass at large masses may give
rise to a circulating flow of mass under high gravitational
conditions, something found along magnets. The object
becomes highly magnetic and highly charged under
high pressures.

Gravity and magnetism have common properties, properties
that pull. Magnetism effects electrons, and metallic substances
that easily exchange electrons.

Gravity effects mass of atoms, and black holes may generate
a highly electrically charged condition. Such charges may
be observed in spiral galaxies or quasars that are active and
eject electrons in two north-south-bound directions. This is
the place Steven Hawkings researches black holes.

One is still missing the explanation of a gravitational force
and gravitational force transformations.

We see that a gravitational force arises upon the presence
of mass.

Based on this simple logic, one derives the possibility of
black holes.

But gravity is not that simple, because how does mass
make it work like that at great distances? Einstein explained
it with wells, dwellings on a sheet, and he explained that
space curves with the presence of mass, that objects move
along straight geodesic lines and upon moving into the
proximity of mass, the objects gains speed.

The proximity of mass. A gravitational phenomena. Mass
pulls, by warping space in a one directional, in a somewhat
magnetic type way over great distances, and the gravitational
field's strength corresponds with the amount of mass.

But what if we detect the presence of such strong
gravitational fields which correspond with a black hole, but
we find no presence of a black hole there, meaning we can't
really measure it as a mass that is not there, because we
measure that the black hole is there.

Just recently the Chinese announced that they are detecting
the presence of a certain black hole in the center of our galaxy.

Based on all this, there is not much to the general black hole
theory, as a black hole refers to an object that has become
so compact and massive, that nothing can escape it's pull,
not even light.

There are observations that prove otherwise.

The energy of a black hole is there, but upon close observation,
there is no sign of a black hole.

One interesting finding was announced by a researcher studying
the X-Rays of a quasar for many years, he found that the X-Rays
predicted by black hole theories were not found in an active
quasar's nucleus. There were no X-Rays produced that would
correspond with a black hole there, where most astrophysicists
expected to find a super-massive black hole.

Again, measurements of gravity predict a black hole there, but
there is no black hole to be found there.

Also other measurements of jets emitted from the nucleus of
active galaxies showed that the magnetic fields of these jets
had nothing to do with the shape of the magnetic fields predicted
by black hole theories.

So there are general gravity theories that predict black holes,
and based on these general gravity theories scientists arrive
to models how these general gravity theories should correspond
in regards to black hole formations, but upon measurements,
scientists find a different thing happening.

So where can one look to explain where that black hole is
that upon close observation is not found.

Well, as with electrostatic properties, high pressures generate
physical processes. One might imagine that a black hole is
gravitationally charged. Charged. And what happens with charged
electromagnetism? Things spark, pop, shoot out and discharges
occur. These discharges in black holes are imagined as being
full of gravitational warps, and may occur through wormholes,
since spacetime here is completely warped with energies
shooting out.

A black hole may be a lot more active than being black with
nothing escaping it gravitationally, spacetime warps and
discharges may occur, especially in environments where
jets are produced, where everything is so charged due to
the concentration of mass. And I mean in such places
everything is charged.

So before the concentration of mass would collapse into
a blackhole, discharges occur warping space in such ways
that while the mass is there, spacetime warps in such ways
that the black hole is not found there. Mass discharges under
high gravitational pressures, by forming wormholes.

How can mass discharge? As with all physics, high pressures
correspond with discharges, or an equilibrium is saught between
regions of high and low charges.

Overall, black holes are charged environments. In charged
environments things behave strangely.

The General Black Hole theory claims this strangeness for
now, a physics that corresponds with the measurements
of mass corresponding with the accumulation of mass in
a black hole (for a region of space), but the mass measured
from a distance does not correspond with the actual mass
that is there.

And where else is there another case for not matching mass
with the mass visible: dark energy in spiral galaxies.

As many as 9 times the mass of our galaxy is not visible.

It is told that what holds our galaxy together from flying
apart is dark energy.

One thing can be assumed, is that near the center of the
galaxy there is a lot higher accumulation of dark energy
than at the edge of the galaxy.

This mystic mass of dark matter works this way. Don't ask
me how I know that.

Black holes warp energy throughout our galaxy as dark
matter energy.


That in some ways matter is gravitational, and dark matter
may comprise the thing, from which matter forms, as it is
gravitational, some dark substance that has not yet formed
sub-atomic particles, and that this dark matter, which is mass
radiates out in the galaxy from the black hole, and upon
matter encountering the vicinity of a black hole, the black
hole's energy may not necessarily be concentrated into
that spot, but its gravity radiates, meaning light may not
escape a black hole, but mass does, and as all is charged,
even light may be radiating through wormholes accross
our galaxy. Light, mass energy, and all the sub-elements
may be radiating not from the point where a black hole
is expected to be found, but from everywhere, particularly
in regions close to the center of spiral galaxies where
super-massive black holes are expected to be found.

One of the experiments showed, that after a super-large
collision of two galaxies, dark energy continued its
propagation in space uneffected. These are a form of
below-sub-atomic compositions of matter that are not
attracted by mass, but itself attracts while propagates
as a makup substance of mass, almost like a gas or
fluid form of sub-atomic particles, something that space
plasma studies can research.

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Old December 10th 06, 05:30 AM posted to sci.astro
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Default General Black Hole theory

The key is in the gravitational forces, as a black hole is a
gravitational phenomena.

So defining what a gravitational force is, besides our perception
of gravity as being a force that sets matter into motion and a
force that bends light.

A black hole is an object whose gravity is so strong, that
nothing can escape its gravitational pull, not even light, and
mathematically its been calculated that objects that have mass
great enough to collapse into a black hole, may do so upon the
nuclear burnout of the object.

However there are physics that demonstrate, that objects that
are to collapse into black holes, may run into a gravitational
field transformation.

First of all, the nature of mass at large masses may give
rise to a circulating flow of mass under high gravitational
conditions, something found along magnets. The object
becomes highly magnetic and highly charged under
high pressures.

Gravity and magnetism have common properties, properties
that pull. Magnetism effects electrons, and metallic substances
that easily exchange electrons.

Gravity effects mass of atoms, and black holes may generate
a highly electrically charged condition. Such charges may
be observed in spiral galaxies or quasars that are active and
eject electrons in two north-south-bound directions. This is
the place Steven Hawkings researches black holes.

One is still missing the explanation of a gravitational force
and gravitational force transformations.

We see that a gravitational force arises upon the presence
of mass.

Based on this simple logic, one derives the possibility of
black holes.

But gravity is not that simple, because how does mass
make it work like that at great distances? Einstein explained
it with wells, dwellings on a sheet, and he explained that
space curves with the presence of mass, that objects move
along straight geodesic lines and upon moving into the
proximity of mass, the objects gains speed.

The proximity of mass. A gravitational phenomena. Mass
pulls, by warping space in a one directional, in a somewhat
magnetic type way over great distances, and the gravitational
field's strength corresponds with the amount of mass.

But what if we detect the presence of such strong
gravitational fields which correspond with a black hole, but
we find no presence of a black hole there, meaning we can't
really measure it as a mass that is not there, because we
measure that the black hole is there.

Just recently the Chinese announced that they are detecting
the presence of a certain black hole in the center of our galaxy.

Based on all this, there is not much to the general black hole
theory, as a black hole refers to an object that has become
so compact and massive, that nothing can escape it's pull,
not even light.

There are observations that prove otherwise.

The energy of a black hole is there, but upon close observation,
there is no sign of a black hole.

One interesting finding was announced by a researcher studying
the X-Rays of a quasar for many years, he found that the X-Rays
predicted by black hole theories were not found in an active
quasar's nucleus. There were no X-Rays produced that would
correspond with a black hole there, where most astrophysicists
expected to find a super-massive black hole.

Again, measurements of gravity predict a black hole there, but
there is no black hole to be found there.

Also other measurements of jets emitted from the nucleus of
active galaxies showed that the magnetic fields of these jets
had nothing to do with the shape of the magnetic fields predicted
by black hole theories.

So there are general gravity theories that predict black holes,
and based on these general gravity theories scientists arrive
to models how these general gravity theories should correspond
in regards to black hole formations, but upon measurements,
scientists find a different thing happening.

So where can one look to explain where that black hole is
that upon close observation is not found.

Well, as with electrostatic properties, high pressures generate
physical processes. One might imagine that a black hole is
gravitationally charged. Charged. And what happens with charged
electromagnetism? Things spark, pop, shoot out and discharges
occur. These discharges in black holes are imagined as being
full of gravitational warps, and may occur through wormholes,
since spacetime here is completely warped with energies
shooting out.

A black hole may be a lot more active than being black with
nothing escaping it gravitationally, spacetime warps and
discharges may occur, especially in environments where
jets are produced, where everything is so charged due to
the concentration of mass. And I mean in such places
everything is charged.

So before the concentration of mass would collapse into
a blackhole, discharges occur warping space in such ways
that while the mass is there, spacetime warps in such ways
that the black hole is not found there. Mass discharges under
high gravitational pressures, by forming wormholes.

How can mass discharge? As with all physics, high pressures
correspond with discharges, or an equilibrium is saught between
regions of high and low charges.

Overall, black holes are charged environments. In charged
environments things behave strangely.

The General Black Hole theory claims this strangeness for
now, a physics that corresponds with the measurements
of mass corresponding with the accumulation of mass in
a black hole (for a region of space), but the mass measured
from a distance does not correspond with the actual mass
that is there.

And where else is there another case for not matching mass
with the mass visible: dark energy in spiral galaxies.

As many as 9 times the mass of our galaxy is not visible.

It is told that what holds our galaxy together from flying
apart is dark energy.

One thing can be assumed, is that near the center of the
galaxy there is a lot higher accumulation of dark energy
than at the edge of the galaxy.

This mystic mass of dark matter works this way. Don't ask
me how I know that.

Black holes warp energy throughout our galaxy as dark
matter energy.


That in some ways matter is gravitational, and dark matter
may comprise the thing, from which matter forms, as it is
gravitational, some dark substance that has not yet formed
sub-atomic particles, and that this dark matter, which is mass
radiates out in the galaxy from the black hole, and upon
matter encountering the vicinity of a black hole, the black
hole's energy may not necessarily be concentrated into
that spot, but its gravity radiates, meaning light may not
escape a black hole, but mass does, and as all is charged,
even light may be radiating through wormholes accross
our galaxy. Light, mass energy, and all the sub-elements
may be radiating not from the point where a black hole
is expected to be found, but from everywhere, particularly
in regions close to the center of spiral galaxies where
super-massive black holes are expected to be found.

One of the experiments showed, that after a super-large
collision of two galaxies, dark energy continued its
propagation in space uneffected. These are a form of
below-sub-atomic compositions of matter that are not
attracted by mass, but itself attracts while propagates
as a makup substance of mass, almost like a gas or
fluid form of sub-atomic particles, something that space
plasma studies can research.


That the energy of the black hole is there, but the black
hole is not there. Its a singularity, meaning the black
hole is everywhere, its composed of that radiating dark
energy field found everywhere in our galaxy.

 




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