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Old September 19th 06, 02:51 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Rich[_1_]
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Saw on the news a group of them demostrated to get Pluto re-instated as
a real planet instead of a dwarf. Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.

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Old September 19th 06, 03:10 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Alan French
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"Rich" wrote in message
ups.com...
Saw on the news a group of them demostrated to get Pluto re-instated as
a real planet instead of a dwarf. Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


I don't think it is that simple. One of the IAU proposals would have made
Pluto, Charon, and Ceres "planets." Would that have made the scientists
deciding on the definition a bunch of "kooks?"

I prefer the decision they made over the original one, but I would have been
quite happy if they'd said, "We made a mistake with Pluto, but we'll leave
it alone, and will be more careful in the future."

Clear skies, Alan

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Old September 19th 06, 03:40 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


Tell us all about what it's like to be a scientist...kook.


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Old September 19th 06, 04:42 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Alan French wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
ups.com...
Saw on the news a group of them demostrated to get Pluto re-instated as
a real planet instead of a dwarf. Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


I don't think it is that simple. One of the IAU proposals would have made
Pluto, Charon, and Ceres "planets." Would that have made the scientists
deciding on the definition a bunch of "kooks?"

I prefer the decision they made over the original one, but I would have been
quite happy if they'd said, "We made a mistake with Pluto, but we'll leave
it alone, and will be more careful in the future."

Clear skies, Alan


Sure. It's not a black hole either, but we can pretend.

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Old September 19th 06, 04:42 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Thomas Mickleman wrote:
Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


Tell us all about what it's like to be a scientist...kook.


Hobble back to the home, grandpa.

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Old September 19th 06, 05:24 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:40:04 GMT, Thomas Mickleman wrote:

Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


Tell us all about what it's like to be a scientist...kook.


Tell us what about what it's like to be a troll. . .jerk

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Old September 19th 06, 05:35 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Thomas Mickleman[_1_]
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"Martin R. Howell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:40:04 GMT, Thomas Mickleman wrote:

Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


Tell us all about what it's like to be a scientist...kook.


Tell us what about what it's like to be a troll. . .jerk


So who asked ya?


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Old September 19th 06, 10:00 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Richard Tobin
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In article . com,
Rich wrote:

Saw on the news a group of them demostrated to get Pluto re-instated as
a real planet instead of a dwarf. Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


Re-classifying planets is not science. Astronomy is not
stamp-collecting.

-- Richard
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Old September 19th 06, 01:40 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Alan French
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"Rich" wrote in message
ups.com...

Alan French wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
ups.com...
Saw on the news a group of them demostrated to get Pluto re-instated

as
a real planet instead of a dwarf. Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


I don't think it is that simple. One of the IAU proposals would have

made
Pluto, Charon, and Ceres "planets." Would that have made the scientists
deciding on the definition a bunch of "kooks?"

I prefer the decision they made over the original one, but I would have

been
quite happy if they'd said, "We made a mistake with Pluto, but we'll

leave
it alone, and will be more careful in the future."

Clear skies, Alan


Sure. It's not a black hole either, but we can pretend.


I guess you missed the point. The folks in charge of such things could have
come up with a definition that made Pluto a planet. Indeed, they were
headed that way. Invoking a black hole is stretching things to the extreme.
We know that's not a planet, and could never be defined as such.

Clear skies, Alan

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Old September 19th 06, 08:16 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36
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Richard Tobin wrote:
In article . com,
Rich wrote:

Saw on the news a group of them demostrated to get Pluto re-instated as
a real planet instead of a dwarf. Someone should tell these people
that being a nostalgia nut does not mix particularly well with being a
scientist.


Re-classifying planets is not science. Astronomy is not
stamp-collecting.

-- Richard


It is not simply a matter of rewriting textbooks to take into account
8 planets,it is that the discovery of Pluto was heralded as a success
for empirical celestial mechanics -

"The first planet to be discovered was Uranus by William and Caroline
Herschel on 13 March 1781. It was discovered by the fact that it showed
a disk when viewed through even a fairly low powered telescope. The
only other planets which have been discovered are Neptune and Pluto.
These were predicted using ingenious mathematical arguments based on
Newton's laws of gravitation and then observed near their predicted
locations. "

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~...and_Pluto.html

So Tobin,it is people like yourself going around with
pseudo-authorative statements while nobody enjoys the spectacle of
watching you shoot yourselves in the foot .Mediocrity does not have any
heights or depths and when a situation like this occurs it is difficult
to see how it turns out especially when the mediocrity of celestial
sphere astrologers is governed by half wits like dynamicists.

 




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