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Old August 22nd 06, 12:56 AM posted to sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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So you wonder what our Strategic Forces consisted of in 1971? How many
Minutemen, how many Titan IIs, how many B-52s?
Well.... you might have it in a book somewhere, as at the time these
were publicly known figures, freely disseminated.
But not any more...this data has now been reclassified. This isn't
closing the gate after the horse has escaped, this is closing the gate
after the horse's great-grandfoals have long been turned into glue:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082000625.html


This is also kind of fun: http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/dept.html


Pat
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Old August 22nd 06, 03:55 AM posted to sci.space.history
Chuck Stewart
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:31 -0500, Pat Flannery wrote:

... this is closing the gate
after the horse's great-grandfoals have long been turned into glue:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082000625.html


You can't say that "security theater has
reached new hights"... because it has
never left the gutter clearly marked
"Bureaucratic Power Grab"

Hey, Rusty... would they try to redact
your missile sites as well?

This is also kind of fun:
http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/dept.html


There goes the budget for a Phalanx CIWS
mounted in every jetliner's cargo bay...
....
.... Hmmm? No, no- I know it wouldn't
work either, but it'd be cool as hell
to watch

Pat


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"Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?"
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Old August 22nd 06, 11:07 AM posted to sci.space.history
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Default Our Strategic Forces in 1971.

Chuck Stewart wrote:

... Hmmm? No, no- I know it wouldn't
work either, but it'd be cool as hell
to watch


Check out today's
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

Best of these shots I've seen. I don't know how well it would decoy
incoming hardware, but all the humans would be going

"ooooo... pretty"
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Old August 22nd 06, 01:01 PM posted to sci.space.history
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"Monte Davis" wrote in message
...
Chuck Stewart wrote:

... Hmmm? No, no- I know it wouldn't
work either, but it'd be cool as hell
to watch


Check out today's
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

Best of these shots I've seen. I don't know how well it would decoy
incoming hardware, but all the humans would be going

"ooooo... pretty"


It's the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Obey your noodly master!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster


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Old August 22nd 06, 07:00 PM posted to sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Scott Hedrick wrote:

Check out today's
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

Best of these shots I've seen. I don't know how well it would decoy
incoming hardware, but all the humans would be going

"ooooo... pretty"



It's the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Obey your noodly master!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster



It's a SIGN! His Child shall be soon among us!

Pat
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Old August 22nd 06, 08:48 PM posted to sci.space.history
Gene DiGennaro
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Pat Flannery wrote:
So you wonder what our Strategic Forces consisted of in 1971? How many
Minutemen, how many Titan IIs, how many B-52s?
Well.... you might have it in a book somewhere, as at the time these
were publicly known figures, freely disseminated.
But not any more...this data has now been reclassified. This isn't
closing the gate after the horse has escaped, this is closing the gate
after the horse's great-grandfoals have long been turned into glue:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082000625.html


This is also kind of fun: http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/dept.html


Pat



I saw that article too. Kind of silly ot redact that data I thought.
Unless there's an obsolete nuke weapon accountability problem that
Uncle Sam doesn't want to admit . Do they have an accurate track of
where all of their N-weapons ( current or otherwise) are?

Gene DiGennaro
Baltimore, Md.

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Old August 23rd 06, 12:18 AM posted to sci.space.history
neopeius
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Pat Flannery wrote:
So you wonder what our Strategic Forces consisted of in 1971? How many
Minutemen, how many Titan IIs, how many B-52s?
Well.... you might have it in a book somewhere, as at the time these
were publicly known figures, freely disseminated.
But not any more...this data has now been reclassified. This isn't
closing the gate after the horse has escaped, this is closing the gate
after the horse's great-grandfoals have long been turned into glue:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082000625.html


This is also kind of fun: http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/dept.html


Pat


This all seems rather silly. I've got books which have the numbers
year by year from 1945 onwards. Unless that information was
deliberately fudged back then, I don't see the point.

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Old August 23rd 06, 03:32 AM posted to sci.space.history
Neil Gerace
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...


Scott Hedrick wrote:

Check out today's
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

Best of these shots I've seen. I don't know how well it would decoy
incoming hardware, but all the humans would be going

"ooooo... pretty"


It's the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Obey your noodly master!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster


It's a SIGN! His Child shall be soon among us!



And a ravioli shall be His bed


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Old August 23rd 06, 04:11 AM posted to sci.space.history
ed kyle
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Default Our Strategic Forces in 1971.


Pat Flannery wrote:
So you wonder what our Strategic Forces consisted of in 1971? How many
Minutemen, how many Titan IIs, how many B-52s?
Well.... you might have it in a book somewhere, as at the time these
were publicly known figures, freely disseminated.
But not any more...this data has now been reclassified. This isn't
closing the gate after the horse has escaped, this is closing the gate
after the horse's great-grandfoals have long been turned into glue:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082000625.html


This is also kind of fun: http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/dept.html


Pat


This is so stupid. I hope they don't come for my copy of
David Stumpf's excellent "Titan II". It says, right there on
page 52 with no "CLASSIFIED" stamps on the page, that
108 operational Titan II missiles were built during the
program. In Chapter 5, Stumpf describes in detail how
these missiles were used to support a ready-to-fire system
that initially included 54 operational silos at three bases,
with each missile carrying a massive multi-megaton (how
many megatons is actually still classified, I think) W-53
warhead. 52 silos were still active in 1981 when the
decision was made to retire Titan II.

Says in Chapter 6 that by 1971-ish there would have been
52 Titans and 1,000 Minuteman ICBMs, with more than
2,000 total warheads to handle something similar to the
the 1,060 USSR aim points that were spelled out in 1960.

Will they come for me now? Well, I suppose I shouldn't
start worrying unless Mr. Stumpf and his publisher
"disappear".

- Ed Kyle

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Old August 23rd 06, 06:18 AM posted to sci.space.history
Chuck Stewart
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Default Our Strategic Forces in 1971.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:11:59 -0700, Ed Kyle wrote:

... 108 operational Titan II missiles were built during the
program. In Chapter 5, Stumpf describes in detail how
these missiles were used to support a ready-to-fire system
that initially included 54 operational silos at three bases,
with each missile carrying a massive multi-megaton (how
many megatons is actually still classified, I think) W-53
warhead.


9 megatonns.

....

There are several sources on the net, but
Carey Sublette's Nuclear Weapons Archive
is a very good start:

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/.../Allbombs.html

- Ed Kyle


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Chuck Stewart
"Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?"
 




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