Identifying objects in Buzz's faceplate.

Our resident kooks actually inspired me to take a look at a photo, and,
though I have no doubts that I'm seeing things in it which are actually on
the moon, I'm curious as to exactly what I am seeing.

T____C_____ wrote:
B___, take a close look at the astronaut's helmet reflection (Apollo
11). There appears to be 5 lights with the photograph having been
taken at night. I wonder if these are xenon lights? Or, are they Beta
Lights?
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...11_40_5902.jpg

You can see some interesting reflectons in
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5903HR.jpg
which has the same time stamp.

If you want more resolution than is available in the online version, check
out Michael Light's book "Full Moon" -- he took scans from the first
generation prints at sufficient resolution to see the film grains (at least
in the 4 by 6 foot prints in the art exhibit). This is way better than using
photoshop.

I'm trying to figure out just what is reflected. One possibility is the MESA
cover, and another is the stand for the video camera. I'm not sure whether
the EASEP had been unloaded (it hadn't been deployed), so that is
possibility.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/images11.html has links to enhanced images
and some of them show the objects more clearly. From some of the other
photos, I'm pretty sure that one of the bright objects is probably the TV
camera.

Anyone who doesn't think they are studio lights is welcome to help out with
identifying them.

"Ami Silberman" wrote in message


Anyone who doesn't think they are studio lights is welcome to help out with
identifying them.

It's simply not the gamma and hard-X-ray reactive moon, and the lighting
spectrum is very Xenon lamp worthy since there's hardly a speck if any
UV-a to deal with, and that Kodak film did have sufficient DR capability
to have recorded Venus plus a few other unavoidable items besides mother
Earth, especially as of A-11, A-14 and A-16 where Venus was clearly
above the lunar horizon and/or nearby Earth (depicted as somewhat below
Earth's orbit), whereas any solar system simulator worth it's salt
should have proven this in more ways than necessary.

Lets say that I certainly can't prove it wasn't studio lighting,
especially if the camera and lens were without spectrum bandpass or
having other essential near-UV and especially UV-c spectrum cut-off
filters.

If you'd like, I'll specify the sorts of filters that should have been
demanded for that sensitive Kodak Ektachrome film, that would have
otherwise unavoidably recorded far more than the human eye sees.
-
Brad Guth



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Ami Silberman wrote:

I'm trying to figure out just what is reflected. One possibility is the MESA
cover, and another is the stand for the video camera. I'm not sure whether
the EASEP had been unloaded (it hadn't been deployed), so that is
possibility.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/images11.html has links to enhanced images
and some of them show the objects more clearly. From some of the other
photos, I'm pretty sure that one of the bright objects is probably the TV
camera.



I think the one closest to Armstrong is the flag, isn't it?
Looking at the Monogram "First Lunar Landing" diorama, that would make
the other one either the camera or the foil solar wind experiment.
The Earth appears to be at the top of the reflected image.

Pat

Ami Silberman wrote:
Our resident kooks actually inspired me to take a look at a photo, and,
though I have no doubts that I'm seeing things in it which are actually on
the moon, I'm curious as to exactly what I am seeing.

T____C_____ wrote:
B___, take a close look at the astronaut's helmet reflection (Apollo
11). There appears to be 5 lights with the photograph having been
taken at night. I wonder if these are xenon lights? Or, are they Beta
Lights?
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...11_40_5902.jpg

You can see some interesting reflectons in
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5903HR.jpg


Using Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I cropped, enlarged, mirror
flipped, played with the contrast, brightness and enhanced the color.
It looks like the U.S. flag and solar wind experiment are to the right
of Armstrong in this zoomed, mirrored image.

Here is the result:

http://www.geocities.com/redstone_mr...903HR_crop.jpg


Rusty

"Rusty" wrote in message
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Using Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I cropped, enlarged, mirror
flipped, played with the contrast, brightness and enhanced the color.
It looks like the U.S. flag and solar wind experiment are to the right
of Armstrong in this zoomed, mirrored image.

Here is the result:

http://www.geocities.com/redstone_mr...903HR_crop.jpg

Rusty


Rusty,
This is actually a very nice job of your having enlarged without even
pushing it all that far.
http://www.geocities.com/redstone_mr...903HR_crop.jpg
Of course the total lack of any near-blue of what should have
unavoidably happened from the interaction of the raw UV-a as impacting
that ultra-white(0.85) moonsuit seems a bit unusual or rather out of
spec, in that it looks exactly as though a xenon lamp spectrum that
offers nearly a wussy terrestrial amount of UV-a was utilized.

BTW; that little speck of light in the upper visor could actually be
the moon.

Would you like to have a shot at pushing out a more interesting picture
that's entirely different than our moon?
-
Brad Guth


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"Rusty" wrote in message
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Ami Silberman wrote:
Our resident kooks actually inspired me to take a look at a photo, and,
though I have no doubts that I'm seeing things in it which are actually
on
the moon, I'm curious as to exactly what I am seeing.

T____C_____ wrote:
B___, take a close look at the astronaut's helmet reflection (Apollo
11). There appears to be 5 lights with the photograph having been
taken at night. I wonder if these are xenon lights? Or, are they
Beta
Lights?
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...11_40_5902.jpg

You can see some interesting reflectons in
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5903HR.jpg


Using Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I cropped, enlarged, mirror
flipped, played with the contrast, brightness and enhanced the color.
It looks like the U.S. flag and solar wind experiment are to the right
of Armstrong in this zoomed, mirrored image.

Here is the result:

http://www.geocities.com/redstone_mr...903HR_crop.jpg


Rusty


Neat. I hate to say it, but I've actually learned a couple things inspired
by questions that came up due to, well, you know who. (This is one, the
other was the correlation between date of photo, landing site, and earth
phase.)