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It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?


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Mars is in it's winter right now, the rovers have been parked so they'll
store power during the rest of the winter and re-start up in spring. That
planet hasn't gotten any warmer, it's just going threw it's normal cycles.


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It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?



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Dexter wrote:
It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?




Mars Emerging from Ice Age, Data Suggest
By SPACE.com

posted: 03:00 pm ET
08 December 2003



Scientists have suspected in recent years that Mars might be undergoing
some sort of global warming. New data points to the possibility it is
emerging from an ice age.

NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter has been surveying the planet for nearly a
full Martian year now, and it has spotted seasonal changes like the
advance and retreat of polar ice. It's also gathering data of a
possible longer trend.

There appears to be too much frozen water at low-latitude regions --
away from the frigid poles -- given the current climate of Mars. The
situation is not in equilibrium, said William Feldman of the Los Alamos
National Laboratory.

"One explanation could be that Mars is just coming out of an ice age,"
Feldman said. "In some low-latitude areas, the ice has already
dissipated. In others, that process is slower and hasn't reached an
equilibrium yet. Those areas are like the patches of snow you sometimes
see persisting in protected spots long after the last snowfall of the
winter."

Frozen water makes up as much as 10 percent of the top 3 feet (1 meter)
of surface material in some regions close to the equator. Dust deposits
may be covering and insulating the lingering ice, Feldman said.

Feldman is the lead scientist for an Odyssey instrument that assesses
water content indirectly through measurements of neutron emissions. He
and other Odyssey scientists described their recent findings today at
the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

"Odyssey is giving us indications of recent global climate change in
Mars," said Jeffrey Plaut, project scientist for the mission at NASA's
Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

High latitude regions of Mars have layers with differing ice content
within the top 20 inches (half-meter) or so of the surface, researchers
conclude from mapping of hydrogen abundance based on gamma-ray
emissions.

"A model that fits the data has three layers near the surface," said
William Boynton of the University of Arizona, Tucson, team leader for
the gamma-ray spectrometer instrument on Odyssey. "The very top layer
would be dry, with no ice. The next layer would contain ice in the pore
spaces between grains of soil. Beneath that would be a very ice-rich
layer, 60 to nearly 100 percent water ice."

Boynton interprets the iciest layer as a deposit of snow or frost,
mixed with a little windblown dust, from an era when the climate was
colder than nowadays. The middle layer could be the result of changes
brought in a warmer era, when ice down to a certain depth dissipated
into the atmosphere. The dust left behind collapsed into a soil layer
with limited pore space for returning ice.

More study is needed to determine for sure what's going on.

Other Odyssey instruments are providing other pieces of the puzzle.
Images from the orbiter's camera system have been combined into the
highest resolution complete map ever made of Mars' south polar region.

"We can now accurately count craters in the layered materials of the
polar regions to get an idea how old they are," said Phil Christensen
of Arizona State University, Tempe, principal investigator for the
camera system.

Temperature information from the camera system's infrared imaging has
produced a surprise about dark patches that dot bright expanses of
seasonal carbon-dioxide ice.

"Those dark features look like places where the ice has gone away, but
thermal infrared maps show that even the dark areas have temperatures
so low they must be carbon-dioxide ice." Christensen said. "One
possibility is that the ice is clear in these areas and we're seeing
down through the ice to features underneath."

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ge_031208.html

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The Cometh's are Coming, thats sure... even Jupiter Knowns storms,
unkown till this date...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/0....html?eref=aol

Two of the largest storm systems on Jupiter are colliding, and nobody
is sure what will result. The larger storm is the famous Great Red
Spot... brewing already for 399 years. This storm began as white
(Storm Clouds), then became brown (Sand Storm), and recently it has
turned red (Mudd Storm)... where will it stop... I am sure someome
activated the Jupiter Star Gate, in secret and forget to turn it off...
why the Cometh's are coming towards our Heads right Now. Einstein what
did you do? and why didn't you tell us that the wormholes are still
active... Aaaaai aaaai aaai... who will save us this time?

Dexter schreef:

It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?


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Old June 10th 06, 07:43 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Frootbat maybe?

Saul Levy


On 9 Jun 2006 15:29:23 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

The Cometh's are Coming, thats sure... even Jupiter Knowns storms,
unkown till this date...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/0....html?eref=aol

Two of the largest storm systems on Jupiter are colliding, and nobody
is sure what will result. The larger storm is the famous Great Red
Spot... brewing already for 399 years. This storm began as white
(Storm Clouds), then became brown (Sand Storm), and recently it has
turned red (Mudd Storm)... where will it stop... I am sure someome
activated the Jupiter Star Gate, in secret and forget to turn it off...
why the Cometh's are coming towards our Heads right Now. Einstein what
did you do? and why didn't you tell us that the wormholes are still
active... Aaaaai aaaai aaai... who will save us this time?

Dexter schreef:

It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?

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Old June 10th 06, 11:26 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Dexter wrote:
It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?



Sun's Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 02:30 pm ET
20 March 2003

"In what could be the simplest explanation for one component of global
warming, a new study shows the Sun's radiation has increased by .05
percent per decade since the late 1970s.

The increase would only be significant to Earth's climate if it has
been going on for a century or more, said study leader Richard Willson,
a Columbia University researcher also affiliated with NASA's Goddard
Institute for Space Studies.

The Sun's increasing output has only been monitored with precision
since satellite technology allowed necessary observations. Willson is
not sure if the trend extends further back in time, but other studies
suggest it does.

"This trend is important because, if sustained over many decades, it
could cause significant climate change," Willson said.

In a NASA-funded study recently published in Geophysical Research
Letters, Willson and his colleagues speculate on the possible history
of the trend based on data collected in the pre-satellite era.

"Solar activity has apparently been going upward for a century or
more," Willson told SPACE.com today.

Significant component

Further satellite observations may eventually show the trend to be
short-term. But if the change has indeed persisted at the present rate
through the 20th Century, "it would have provided a significant
component of the global warming the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change reports to have occurred over the past 100 years," he said."

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ut_030320.html


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Who shall save you, Rat... shall I Permit someone to kill my Pet...
ofcourse not, I still need you for your unbelieve...

Ps Frootbat as you call my Good friend, Knight Nightbat... IS BACK...
HA HA HA... the coffee boy's had no luck this time... Ha Ha Ha... try
again.


Saul Levy a écrit :

Frootbat maybe?

Saul Levy


On 9 Jun 2006 15:29:23 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

The Cometh's are Coming, thats sure... even Jupiter Knowns storms,
unkown till this date...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/0....html?eref=aol

Two of the largest storm systems on Jupiter are colliding, and nobody
is sure what will result. The larger storm is the famous Great Red
Spot... brewing already for 399 years. This storm began as white
(Storm Clouds), then became brown (Sand Storm), and recently it has
turned red (Mudd Storm)... where will it stop... I am sure someome
activated the Jupiter Star Gate, in secret and forget to turn it off...
why the Cometh's are coming towards our Heads right Now. Einstein what
did you do? and why didn't you tell us that the wormholes are still
active... Aaaaai aaaai aaai... who will save us this time?

Dexter schreef:

It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?


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Old June 11th 06, 05:38 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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It sure worked for a while, WartHole! I'm satisfied.

Saul Levy


On 10 Jun 2006 19:50:46 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Who shall save you, Rat... shall I Permit someone to kill my Pet...
ofcourse not, I still need you for your unbelieve...

Ps Frootbat as you call my Good friend, Knight Nightbat... IS BACK...
HA HA HA... the coffee boy's had no luck this time... Ha Ha Ha... try
again.


Saul Levy a écrit :

Frootbat maybe?

Saul Levy


On 9 Jun 2006 15:29:23 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

The Cometh's are Coming, thats sure... even Jupiter Knowns storms,
unkown till this date...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/0....html?eref=aol

Two of the largest storm systems on Jupiter are colliding, and nobody
is sure what will result. The larger storm is the famous Great Red
Spot... brewing already for 399 years. This storm began as white
(Storm Clouds), then became brown (Sand Storm), and recently it has
turned red (Mudd Storm)... where will it stop... I am sure someome
activated the Jupiter Star Gate, in secret and forget to turn it off...
why the Cometh's are coming towards our Heads right Now. Einstein what
did you do? and why didn't you tell us that the wormholes are still
active... Aaaaai aaaai aaai... who will save us this time?

Dexter schreef:

It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?

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Some try to pretend that they are different and they try to avoid what
they sowed, but they only end up suffering alot more than they were
supposed to and they de-evolve away from their destiny and are greatly
hated.

did you know that Jesus was the leader of a sect known as the Zealots,
bent on ridding Judea of Roman rule? did you know that I am THE LEADER
of the ZAOUIA'S in the Sacred Lands bent on rididing Ma Gharb from Zog
rull and fallen ones... and than I shall come After you and the Rest of
the dessert Coffee Boy's... Than we shall see who shall Last Laugh... I
am sure It shall work for eternity... it shall be finnished with bad
tast of the CHIPS with the Coffee... Warhol Von Saali... an Angry
Zawaoui Farmer...

http://www.itineranceplus.com/englis...kech.asp?ID=12

Ps The Zaouia's Are much older than you can read in this bad
translation I found on the Net... For your information Only... The
Ribat's are the Shrines of the descendants of Abraham... While the
Zaouia's are the shrines of the descendent's of Moses... and King
David... and As you know I Am the Leader of all the Tribes in the world
who wear a TurBand or use Rosesbeads, Mesbah, Misbah, Misiah in their
Prayer... And That are Many Many Many Many Warriors, If I wish to USE
Force on all the Evil people in this low fallen world... But as Jesus I
shall Forgive them their sins, since they knew not what they were
doing... And Remenber that that in all those shrines are Gran'da'dy's
of Warhol since the begining ... It's we who shall roll the stones that
shall open the memory of Saints forgotten by the World... The I am of a
Saali Temple Guard... From the Sacred blood line of Kings, Saints and
Prophet's... The Little Moorish Prince... Warhol Von Saali... too serve
you in truth.


Saul Levy wrote:
It sure worked for a while, WartHole! I'm satisfied.

Saul Levy


On 10 Jun 2006 19:50:46 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Who shall save you, Rat... shall I Permit someone to kill my Pet...
ofcourse not, I still need you for your unbelieve...

Ps Frootbat as you call my Good friend, Knight Nightbat... IS BACK...
HA HA HA... the coffee boy's had no luck this time... Ha Ha Ha... try
again.


Saul Levy a écrit :

Frootbat maybe?

Saul Levy


On 9 Jun 2006 15:29:23 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

The Cometh's are Coming, thats sure... even Jupiter Knowns storms,
unkown till this date...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/0....html?eref=aol

Two of the largest storm systems on Jupiter are colliding, and nobody
is sure what will result. The larger storm is the famous Great Red
Spot... brewing already for 399 years. This storm began as white
(Storm Clouds), then became brown (Sand Storm), and recently it has
turned red (Mudd Storm)... where will it stop... I am sure someome
activated the Jupiter Star Gate, in secret and forget to turn it off....
why the Cometh's are coming towards our Heads right Now. Einstein what
did you do? and why didn't you tell us that the wormholes are still
active... Aaaaai aaaai aaai... who will save us this time?

Dexter schreef:

It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?


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Old June 11th 06, 07:13 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Yeah, sure, the Romans laid down at Jesus's feet and laughed their
heads off, WartHole!

Saul Levy


On 11 Jun 2006 08:21:50 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Some try to pretend that they are different and they try to avoid what
they sowed, but they only end up suffering alot more than they were
supposed to and they de-evolve away from their destiny and are greatly
hated.

did you know that Jesus was the leader of a sect known as the Zealots,
bent on ridding Judea of Roman rule? did you know that I am THE LEADER
of the ZAOUIA'S in the Sacred Lands bent on rididing Ma Gharb from Zog
rull and fallen ones... and than I shall come After you and the Rest of
the dessert Coffee Boy's... Than we shall see who shall Last Laugh... I
am sure It shall work for eternity... it shall be finnished with bad
tast of the CHIPS with the Coffee... Warhol Von Saali... an Angry
Zawaoui Farmer...

http://www.itineranceplus.com/englis...kech.asp?ID=12

Ps The Zaouia's Are much older than you can read in this bad
translation I found on the Net... For your information Only... The
Ribat's are the Shrines of the descendants of Abraham... While the
Zaouia's are the shrines of the descendent's of Moses... and King
David... and As you know I Am the Leader of all the Tribes in the world
who wear a TurBand or use Rosesbeads, Mesbah, Misbah, Misiah in their
Prayer... And That are Many Many Many Many Warriors, If I wish to USE
Force on all the Evil people in this low fallen world... But as Jesus I
shall Forgive them their sins, since they knew not what they were
doing... And Remenber that that in all those shrines are Gran'da'dy's
of Warhol since the begining ... It's we who shall roll the stones that
shall open the memory of Saints forgotten by the World... The I am of a
Saali Temple Guard... From the Sacred blood line of Kings, Saints and
Prophet's... The Little Moorish Prince... Warhol Von Saali... too serve
you in truth.


Saul Levy wrote:
It sure worked for a while, WartHole! I'm satisfied.

Saul Levy


On 10 Jun 2006 19:50:46 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

Who shall save you, Rat... shall I Permit someone to kill my Pet...
ofcourse not, I still need you for your unbelieve...

Ps Frootbat as you call my Good friend, Knight Nightbat... IS BACK...
HA HA HA... the coffee boy's had no luck this time... Ha Ha Ha... try
again.


Saul Levy a écrit :

Frootbat maybe?

Saul Levy


On 9 Jun 2006 15:29:23 -0700, "Warhol" wrote:

The Cometh's are Coming, thats sure... even Jupiter Knowns storms,
unkown till this date...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/0....html?eref=aol

Two of the largest storm systems on Jupiter are colliding, and nobody
is sure what will result. The larger storm is the famous Great Red
Spot... brewing already for 399 years. This storm began as white
(Storm Clouds), then became brown (Sand Storm), and recently it has
turned red (Mudd Storm)... where will it stop... I am sure someome
activated the Jupiter Star Gate, in secret and forget to turn it off...
why the Cometh's are coming towards our Heads right Now. Einstein what
did you do? and why didn't you tell us that the wormholes are still
active... Aaaaai aaaai aaai... who will save us this time?

Dexter schreef:

It seems Mars is warming too. Is that related to Earth's warming? Does
that mean that the warming is related to the Sun instead of something
happening locally?

 




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