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Old June 7th 06, 07:36 PM posted to sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary
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June 7, 2006

Grey Hautaluoma
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Susan Hendrix
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RELEASE: 06-236

NASA'S FUSE FINDS INFANT SOLAR SYSTEM AWASH IN CARBON

Scientists using NASA's Far Ultraviolet Spectroscopic Explorer, or
FUSE, have discovered abundant amounts of carbon gas in a dusty disk
surrounding a young star named Beta Pictoris.

The star and its emerging solar system are less than 20 million years
old, and planets may have already formed. The abundance of carbon gas
in the remaining debris disk indicates that Beta Pictoris' planets
could be carbon-rich worlds of graphite and methane, or the star's
environs might resemble our own solar system in its early days.

A team led by Aki Roberge of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in
Greenbelt, Md., presents the observation in the June 8 issue of
Nature. The new measurements make Beta Pictoris the first disk of its
kind whose gas has been comprehensively studied. The discovery
settles a long-standing scientific mystery about how the gas has
lingered in this debris disk, yet raises new questions about the
development of solar systems.

"There is much, much more carbon gas than anyone expected," said
Roberge, a NASA postdoctoral fellow and lead author on the Nature
report. "Could this be what our own solar system looked like when it
was young? Are we seeing the formation of new types of worlds? Either
prospect is fascinating."

The carbon gas detected by the spacecraft comes from unseen asteroids
or comets orbiting the star that collide with each other and release
material. The mere presence of gas in the Beta Pictoris disk has been
a mystery. Theoretical models predict that intense light from the
young star should rapidly blow the gas away. The overabundance of
carbon, discovered now for the first time, explains why the disk
retains so much gas. Carbon is less susceptible to expulsion than
other elements, and it retards the clearing effect.

Beta Pictoris, about 60 light years away from Earth, is 1.8 times more
massive than our sun. At eight to 20 million years old, it is very
young. This young star's disk was discovered in 1984. Earlier
observations with the Hubble Space Telescope and the Keck telescope
hinted that a Jupiter-like planet may have already formed in this
disk, and rocky terrestrial planets may be forming. Such planets
would be too small and faint to observe with current instruments.

The terrestrial planets in our solar system -- Mercury, Venus, Earth
and Mars -- formed from the collision of smaller planetary bodies
such as asteroids about five billion years ago. During the few
hundred million years after Earth was formed, asteroids and comets
might have smashed into our planet to deliver virtually all of the
water and organic material we see today. These materials are the
building blocks of life on Earth.

Asteroids and comets orbiting Beta Pictoris might contain large
amounts of carbon-rich material, such as graphite and methane.
Planets forming from or impacted by such bodies would be very
different from those in our solar system and might have methane-rich
atmospheres, like Titan, a moon of Saturn.

"What we have learned in the past ten years is that our galaxy is
filled with other solar systems, and each one is different from the
next," said Marc Kuchner of NASA Goddard, an expert on extra-solar
planets. "Beta Pictoris may be telling us something about the variety
of planets that might be out there; some might be carbon planets,
very different from the Earth."

Alternatively, Beta Pictoris might be similar to how our solar system
was long ago. While local asteroids and comets don't seem carbon-rich
today, some research suggests that certain meteorites called
enstatite chondrite meteorites formed in a carbon-rich environment.
Some scientists also speculate that Jupiter has a carbon core.

"We might be observing processes that occurred early in our solar
system's development," said Nature co-author Alycia Weinberger of the
Carnegie Institution of Washington.

Other co-authors on the report are Paul Feldman, Johns Hopkins
University, Baltimore, and Magali Deleuil and Jean-Claude Bouret,
Laboratoire d'Astrophysique de Marseille in France. The FUSE project
is a NASA Explorer mission, developed in cooperation with France's
Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales and the Canadian Space Agency by
Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore; University of Colorado,
Boulder; and University of California, Berkeley. Goddard manages the
program for NASA's Science Mission Directorate.

For more information on the Beta Pictoris discovery, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...betapicMM.html

For more information on FUSE, visit: http://fuse.pha.jhu.edu


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Journey through white hole update (repost):

Its a huge thing to find that instea of a black hole scientists were
predicting in the nucleus of spiral galaxies, there is a white hole
intead. The news would make headlines around the globe.

People would wonder what is a white hole? How come its white
(opposing all matter, even light) and not black (sucking everything
in, not even light can escape) as the mass near the center of
a spiral galaxy tells scientists there is a black hole there.

So what braught the idea to oppose current science with
a completely contradicting theory to black holes?

A prediction based on informtion which suggests that there
is a possibility for a white hole being found in the center of
the Milky Way. The information suggests that scientists
have not been modeling spiral galaxies correctly.

This theory is based on the assumption, that a spiral galaxy
has swirling characteristics with spiraling arms, and swirling
dynamics have tendencies to generate an opening, an eye
in the center. If there is such an opening, then matter stays
out of it, contradicting the claim that a supermassive and compact
solar object, a black hole drives the gravitational layout of a
spiraling galaxy. Current theories suggest that dark energy
is also responsible for holding a spiral galaxy together, that gravity
alone of the observed stars, gasses and dust is not strong
enough to hold the galaxy together. so there are mystic forces
playing roles in a galaxy. As many as 90 percent of mass in
the galaxy is estimated to consist of dark energy.

The assumption here is that whatever the mystic forces speculated
such as dark energy, are not important in showing that there
is a white hole in the center of spiral galaxies. What's important
is to see a few basic characteristics galaxy shapes carry.
Two distinct spiral arms are often found in hurricanes. With such
arms, one can imagine the similarity of swirling through space
as hurricanes swirl above oceans, and seek an eye, a familiar
consequence to spiraling arms.

Its a huge thing to find that instea of a black hole scientists were
predicting in the nucleus of spiral galaxies, there is a white hole
intead. The news would make headlines around the globe.

People would wonder what is a white hole? How come its white
(opposing all matter, even light) and not black (sucking everything
in, not even light can escape) as the mass near the center of
a spiral galaxy tells scientists there is a black hole there.

So what braught the idea to oppose all science?

A prediction based on informtion which suggests that there
is a possibility for a white hole being found in the center of
the Milky Way. The information suggests that scientists
have not been modeling spiral galaxies correctly.

This theory is based on the assumption, that a spiral galaxy
has swirling characteristics with spiraling arms, and swirling
dynamics have tendencies to generate an opening, an eye
in the center. If there is such an opening, then matter stays
out of it, contradicting the claim that a supermassive and compact
solar object, a black hole drives the gravitational layout of a
spiraling galaxy. Current theories suggest that dark energy
is also responsible for holding a spiral galaxy together, that gravity
alone of the observed stars, gasses and dust is not strong
enough to hold the galaxy together. so there are mystic forces
playing roles in a galaxy. As many as 90 percent of mass in
the galaxy is estimated to consist of dark energy.

The assumption here is that whatever the mystic forces speculated
such as dark energy, are not important in showing that there
is a white hole in the center of spiral galaxies. What's important
is to see a few basic characteristics galaxy shapes carry.
Two distinct spiral arms are often found in hurricanes. With such
arms, one can imagine the similarity of swirling through space
as hurricanes swirl above oceans, and seek an eye, a familiar
consequence to spiraling arms.

Anyway, I passed on this theory to Michio Kaku for working out
the details on dark nergy based on simple questions comparing
huricanes and spiral galaxies. Questions such as what is
the force that keeps a hurricane together, and is it applicable
for the explanation of dark energy in a spiral galaxy. Michio Kaku
responded to me regarding this theory.

Tarzan

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Repost: LA hunchbacks had meeting today at 3pm on Google

At the table:

H1: Oh, by the way. Google is sued for 20 million dollars.

H2: For illegal privacy violations on the Internet.

H1: The rule to privacy is simple: don't distribute private chats
in public. Just as you wouldn't do it on the phone, people's
private (passtime) chats carried from home are not for
commercial distribution.

H3: 20 million dollars in private lawsuit for that, isn't that America?


H1: Its just you know, you have to know how to live.

H1: So everyone, listen. Groups Beta does something which
deeply violates human rights. Its WHAT one makes searchable
from the public domain. Making all of the public domain a
commercial property is even worse. Public domains like public
libraries are sensitive to commercializations, those entities are
not for fascist piracies. They are properties of the human domain,
cultural properties, and infringment of cultural domains, just as
taking private ownership of items in national museums and
selling duplicates of those national properties without consent
with the rightful owners (and/or copyright owners) is illegal piracy
and illegal pirated infringment. They often say in museums:
no photos. Its sensitive. They took all materials from global
library sources, and copied the material without copyright
concent, consent which demands the business soveirgnity
for copyright owners to have full rights to their copyrighted
products. Google copied and said they offer free sponsoring,
while profiting from the duplicates, duplicates which by copyright
if profited on reuires prior and not later greements.

H4: Reuires? Let's get them. Let's get them now!

H1: That would be a nice try. Google's humiliating infringments
with disfunctional business compromizes (lacking business
quality), their illegal acts of infringment on public domains,
leaving people and businesses in humiliating condition
represents an illegitimate environment producing a humanly
degrading environment full of illegal robberies. A corrupt
business. But, since I have no understanding of how others
perceive Google and their products, I do not attack their
business.

H4: But ask for 20 million in personal damages?

H2 and H3: Massive privacy violations.

H4: The rest is not history, since this is a private lawsuit.

H1: We will move in silently.

H1, H2, H3, H4: Gotta work together.

H1: Listen guys. Usenet is a public domain, and Google
took full control, and full posession, forcing business
contracts on people on public domains without
'any' consent that people's private communication
needs shall be made public by Google, with disfunctional
privacy features, puruading people to black and white accustom
Google's archiving of chats made from home, we say no,
and if the government would archive chat...

H2: Some say they archive all phone calls.

H1: Yes, and for them to make it available for searching,
openly for anyone's leasure or business, the infringement on
privacy - since chats take place from my home - generate
a severe fear-mongering environment to my privacy, and in such
case I would sue the government and definitely asking for
damages in regards to such fascist intrusion to human rights.
With my solution I do not care or know what others think about
Google, we feel damaged by a business corruption, and we ask for
a personal compensation.

H4: And once we get the money, where do we go?

H1: We are going on a journey through space to cross a white hole.

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In article .com,
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"General Relativity is a Tower of Babel that wastes time, money and minds on
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Your brain is full of contradictions, and you are unable to turn
your contradictions into contrasts. Take a good look at your
shadow on the ground.

 




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