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What's the current state of the art in ion engines? How well
do they do, and when one adds solar panels (or some other energy source) and such to the mix, what's the thrust/weight ratio? Ion engines are the current winner in the very-low-acceleration game, right? -Much Thanks |
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What's the current state of the art in ion engines? How well do they do, and when one adds solar panels (or some other energy source) and such to the mix, what's the thrust/weight ratio? Low. ![]() I think I've found "60kg per Newton of thrust" for Hall thrusters, but that's not counting solar panels. Ion engines are the current winner in the very-low-acceleration game, right? Ion engines are "winners" in the sense of having more high profile flight experience. The other electric engines used (typically for station keeping) have less exciting missions. Flip through the electric engines section of: http://www.islandone.org/APC/ There's a surprising number of low acceleration engines that have been flown. Arcjets, resistojets, hall thrusters, ion engines, etc. I'm partial to Magnetoplasmadynamic (MPD) thrusters, personally, because some forms of them can operate directly off solar cell power feeds and they have high efficiencies. Plus, the pictures are kewl. ![]() Mike Miller, Materials Engineer |
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Charles Talleyrand wrote: What's the current state of the art in ion engines? How well do they do, and when one adds solar panels (or some other energy source) and such to the mix, what's the thrust/weight ratio? Pretty poor. :-) It's difficult to find useful numbers, because there are so many variables. The power-conditioning electronics behind the engine often considerably outweigh the engine itself, and then there are the solar arrays... Deep Space 1's engine hardware (including electronics) was 48 kg, giving 92 mN of thrust and 30 km/s exhaust velocity, using 3 mg/s of xenon, at full power (2.5 kW, which the spacecraft in fact couldn't quite deliver). You can probably do better than that -- it was a conservative design. Solar-array masses depend on how optimistic you are (and how careful you are about accounting for *all* support hardware etc. -- inflated numbers counting only part of the hardware are common). For the entire system, 40 W/kg is routine, 100 W/kg is aggressive and experimental, and really optimistic people think several hundred W/kg could be had with determined use of new technologies. Ion engines are the current winner in the very-low-acceleration game, right? Depends on what you mean by "winner". :-) They're the obvious choice right now if you have lots of power, don't need much thrust, and absolutely need high Isp (i.e., minimum propellant consumption). They lose badly if you have limited power or need significant acceleration. -- MOST launched 30 June; first light, 29 July; 5arcsec | Henry Spencer pointing, 10 Sept; first science, early Oct; all well. | |
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"Charles Talleyrand" writes:
What's the current state of the art in ion engines? How well do they do, and when one adds solar panels (or some other energy source) and such to the mix, what's the thrust/weight ratio? The current state of the art in ion thrusters is probably the Boeing XIPS-25, as used on the 702 series comsats. But that's a proprietary system, and so hard data is scarce. The NSTAR ion thruster used on the NASA DS-1 spacecraft, is still fairly good, and there's plenty of data on that. Nominally uses 2.3 kW of electric power to produce 92 mN of thrust at a specific impulse of 3,120 seconds, though you can tweak all of those values as circumstances demand. Weight of the bare thruster I have as 8.3 kg, giving a thrust/weight ratio of 1/885. But wait(weight?), there's more. The thruster doesn't just plug into a wall outlet and a Xenon bottle. It needs a power processing unit which masses 15 kg and a propellant management assembly that masses 20.2 kg, so the thrust/weight ratio of the complete system is 1/4,640. Assuming your solar arrays and associated hardware have a specific power of 40 W/kg, which again is pretty much state-of-the-art, you need another 57.5 kg of solar to get that 2.3 kW, which brings the total mass to 101.0 kg and the overall T/W ratio to 1/10,770. This illustrates something that often gets overlooked in cursory analysis of advanced propulsion systems. The mass (and cost, complexity, etc) of the thruster is usually small compared to that of the PPU and other necessary support systems, and the mass of the propulsion system as a whole is usually small compared to the mass of the power system. People look at, wax enthusiastic about, and try to improve the performance of bare thrusters, because Ion Drives! are cool and sexy and all that, but what matters is the systems engineering that goes into boring old switching power supplies and gas flow controllers and whatnot. Ion engines are the current winner in the very-low-acceleration game, right? Oh, there are propulsion sytems that offer much lower acceleration than that :-) I know what you mean, though, and it's not clear that Ion engines are the winner in that regime. Their main competition is a sort of plasma thruster called the Hall Effect Thruster or Stationary Plasma Thruster, depending on who you talk to. Somewhat less specific impulse, but correspondingly more thrust. State of the art there is the Fakel SPT-140. 4.5 kW of power gives 290 mN of thrust at a specific impulse of 1770 seconds, again all tweakable to mission demands. Bare thruster mass 6.8 kg, PPU mass 13.7 kg, propellant management I don't have good numbers for but previous Fakel SPTs all used a 3.9 kg PMA. So, propulsion system T/W is 1/825. Add in the 112.5 kg solar arrays needed for that 4.5 kW, and your T/W drops to 1/4630. More than twice the value for the NSTAR ion thruster, at slightly more than half the specific impulse. Most of the missions I look at, the SPT-140 is the winner. But sometimes pure Isp is what is needed, even if your thrust drops off the bottom of the scale, and there are applications for ion thrusters as well. -- *John Schilling * "Anything worth doing, * *Member:AIAA,NRA,ACLU,SAS,LP * is worth doing for money" * *Chief Scientist & General Partner * -13th Rule of Acquisition * *White Elephant Research, LLC * "There is no substitute * * for success" * *661-951-9107 or 661-275-6795 * -58th Rule of Acquisition * |
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"Charles Talleyrand" writes:
What's the current state of the art in ion engines? How well do they do, and when one adds solar panels (or some other energy source) and such to the mix, what's the thrust/weight ratio? The current state of the art in ion thrusters is probably the Boeing XIPS-25, as used on the 702 series comsats. But that's a proprietary system, and so hard data is scarce. The NSTAR ion thruster used on the NASA DS-1 spacecraft, is still fairly good, and there's plenty of data on that. Nominally uses 2.3 kW of electric power to produce 92 mN of thrust at a specific impulse of 3,120 seconds, though you can tweak all of those values as circumstances demand. Weight of the bare thruster I have as 8.3 kg, giving a thrust/weight ratio of 1/885. But wait(weight?), there's more. The thruster doesn't just plug into a wall outlet and a Xenon bottle. It needs a power processing unit which masses 15 kg and a propellant management assembly that masses 20.2 kg, so the thrust/weight ratio of the complete system is 1/4,640. Assuming your solar arrays and associated hardware have a specific power of 40 W/kg, which again is pretty much state-of-the-art, you need another 57.5 kg of solar to get that 2.3 kW, which brings the total mass to 101.0 kg and the overall T/W ratio to 1/10,770. This illustrates something that often gets overlooked in cursory analysis of advanced propulsion systems. The mass (and cost, complexity, etc) of the thruster is usually small compared to that of the PPU and other necessary support systems, and the mass of the propulsion system as a whole is usually small compared to the mass of the power system. People look at, wax enthusiastic about, and try to improve the performance of bare thrusters, because Ion Drives! are cool and sexy and all that, but what matters is the systems engineering that goes into boring old switching power supplies and gas flow controllers and whatnot. Ion engines are the current winner in the very-low-acceleration game, right? Oh, there are propulsion sytems that offer much lower acceleration than that :-) I know what you mean, though, and it's not clear that Ion engines are the winner in that regime. Their main competition is a sort of plasma thruster called the Hall Effect Thruster or Stationary Plasma Thruster, depending on who you talk to. Somewhat less specific impulse, but correspondingly more thrust. State of the art there is the Fakel SPT-140. 4.5 kW of power gives 290 mN of thrust at a specific impulse of 1770 seconds, again all tweakable to mission demands. Bare thruster mass 6.8 kg, PPU mass 13.7 kg, propellant management I don't have good numbers for but previous Fakel SPTs all used a 3.9 kg PMA. So, propulsion system T/W is 1/825. Add in the 112.5 kg solar arrays needed for that 4.5 kW, and your T/W drops to 1/4630. More than twice the value for the NSTAR ion thruster, at slightly more than half the specific impulse. Most of the missions I look at, the SPT-140 is the winner. But sometimes pure Isp is what is needed, even if your thrust drops off the bottom of the scale, and there are applications for ion thrusters as well. -- *John Schilling * "Anything worth doing, * *Member:AIAA,NRA,ACLU,SAS,LP * is worth doing for money" * *Chief Scientist & General Partner * -13th Rule of Acquisition * *White Elephant Research, LLC * "There is no substitute * * for success" * *661-951-9107 or 661-275-6795 * -58th Rule of Acquisition * |
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