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Old July 29th 05, 04:33 AM
Kyle
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Default Shut down NASA now...

Don't get me wrong, I grew up as a fan of space exploration and even watched
the first moon launch from about 50mi away in Florida as an infant. I hate
what Bush did to NASA, diverting its scarce resources to a purported Moon/Mars
mission that is impossible on a $15bil/year budget.

So now that NASA's paranoia has caused it to ground the entire shuttle fleet
until the insulation problem can be fixed, a fleet scheduled for dismantling
anyway in 2010. There is no way NASA can fix the fleet in time, so why even
bother? The $15bil annual budget won't be used to launch shuttles, and
there's no way in hell we're going to Mars with it, so it seems the most
economic solution is simply to eliminate NASA immediately. It already
abandoned all of its successful and cheap robotic missions to make room for
the purported Moon/Mars missions, and since we know those will never happen
it seems ridiculous to keep dumping billions of dollars a years on the agency.

Maybe NASA should use its $15bil to buy a few dozen Russian Energia rockets
and Soyuz capsules. It seems like primitive technology, but it can get into
space reliably and safely each and every time, unlike our trillion dollar
unusable shuttle which just sits there festering away at a cost of millions of
dollars per second. Or maybe NASA's budget should be given to the Spaceship
One company to develop nearly-equivalent vehicles at a fraction of the cost...

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Old July 29th 05, 05:29 AM
John
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Kyle wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I grew up as a fan of space exploration and even watched
the first moon launch from about 50mi away in Florida as an infant. I hate
what Bush did to NASA, diverting its scarce resources to a purported Moon/Mars
mission that is impossible on a $15bil/year budget.


Yeah, why should NASA have goals?

So now that NASA's paranoia has caused it to ground the entire shuttle fleet
until the insulation problem can be fixed, a fleet scheduled for dismantling
anyway in 2010. There is no way NASA can fix the fleet in time, so why even
bother? The $15bil annual budget won't be used to launch shuttles, and
there's no way in hell we're going to Mars with it, so it seems the most
economic solution is simply to eliminate NASA immediately. It already
abandoned all of its successful and cheap robotic missions to make room for
the purported Moon/Mars missions,


Wow, I had no idea that NASA had abandoned Cassini, Mars Rovers, Galaxy Evolution
Explorer, Spitzer Telescpope, Deep Impact, Stardust, Quick Scatterometer, Mars
Global Surveyor, etc etc. We can learn an awful lot by learning your posts.



Maybe NASA should use its $15bil to buy a few dozen Russian Energia rockets
and Soyuz capsules.


Umm Energia has been out of production for many years and only a few were ever
built anyway. But you must have already known that since you seem to know more
than NASA does!


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Old July 29th 05, 05:41 AM
Irwin Fletcher
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"Kyle" , of the great .tv domain, wrote

... I even watched the first moon launch from about 50mi away in Florida
as an infant



wow!
You were watching TV as an infant! Well, we definitely must listen to you
now.

ker PLONK!


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Old July 29th 05, 05:11 PM
Kyle
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"Irwin Fletcher" wrote...
"Kyle" , of the great .tv domain, wrote

... I even watched the first moon launch from about 50mi away in Florida
as an infant



wow!
You were watching TV as an infant! Well, we definitely must listen to you
now.


No, we lived in Florida right near Cape Canaveral and my parents took me to
the beach to see it in person.

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Old July 29th 05, 06:01 PM
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"Kyle" wrote in message
nk.net...

SNIP

He's wasting his fry basket money on a internet connection that only leads
him to information he can't understand!

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Old July 29th 05, 08:13 PM
Kyle
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"Darkwing (Double Secret Disinformation Agent)" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
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He's wasting his fry basket money on a internet connection that only leads him to information he can't understand!


Whatever. I'm not stupid, I know that $15bil/year won't get us to Mars.
NASA has announced it's abandoning (err, "shifting its priorities") its
successful unmanned space programs as well as the shuttle to focus on
the alleged Mars mission, and so far Bush hasn't said another word about
it since he announced it and NASA hasn't come up with any plan on how to
get there. Like with the ISS, the cost overrun WILL likely amount to
5000% or more, and with a Mars mission really not possible with anything
less than several hundred billion dollars, the cost overrun will put it
into the trillions of dollars. The public won't accept that, and the
whole project scrapped after "only" eating up a half-trillion or so.

NASA administrators and workers will win, they get paid whether the
project is completed or not, the giant aerospace companies will win
as they charge hundreds of billions of dollars for equipment you can
buy for a few hundred dollars at Home Depot, and Bush wins a few
political points because the project will be cancelled years after he
leaves office. It's amazing that with your fancy degrees in rocket
science, y'all don't understand the basics of the American political
process...

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Old July 29th 05, 09:32 PM
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"Kyle" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Darkwing (Double Secret Disinformation Agent)"
theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
...
He's wasting his fry basket money on a internet connection that only
leads him to information he can't understand!


Whatever. I'm not stupid, I know that $15bil/year won't get us to Mars.
NASA has announced it's abandoning (err, "shifting its priorities") its
successful unmanned space programs as well as the shuttle to focus on
the alleged Mars mission, and so far Bush hasn't said another word about
it since he announced it and NASA hasn't come up with any plan on how to
get there. Like with the ISS, the cost overrun WILL likely amount to
5000% or more, and with a Mars mission really not possible with anything
less than several hundred billion dollars, the cost overrun will put it
into the trillions of dollars. The public won't accept that, and the
whole project scrapped after "only" eating up a half-trillion or so.

NASA administrators and workers will win, they get paid whether the
project is completed or not, the giant aerospace companies will win
as they charge hundreds of billions of dollars for equipment you can
buy for a few hundred dollars at Home Depot, and Bush wins a few
political points because the project will be cancelled years after he
leaves office. It's amazing that with your fancy degrees in rocket
science, y'all don't understand the basics of the American political
process...



Let's not even try, wow what a great message. Gov't wastes money on
EVERYTHING they do, I'm not real sure why you have a fixation on NASA, it's
hardly the end all be all of pork barrel spending.

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DW


 




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