FGB-2 status?

Are there any news about the actual status of FGB-2 (new UDM)? Is ist ready
for launch in 2006?

"Thomas Former" wrote in
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Are there any news about the actual status of FGB-2 (new UDM)? Is ist
ready for launch in 2006?

No, not even close. Russia has redirected funding from the later ISS
modules to keep the Soyuz/Progress line going.


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No, not even close. Russia has redirected funding from the later ISS
modules to keep the Soyuz/Progress line going.

So no construction of Russian modules are going on at the moment at all?
What about the Enterprise module? AFAIK its a joint project between RKK
Energia and Spacehab?

"Nikolaj Ravn Hansen" wrote in
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No, not even close. Russia has redirected funding from the later ISS
modules to keep the Soyuz/Progress line going.

So no construction of Russian modules are going on at the moment at all?

I would certainly hope not. It would be hypocritical for the Russians to
complain about not getting US/European funding for Soyuz/Progress craft
they agreed to provide with their own funding, while putting funding into
Russian modules that won't be needed for years, if at all.

What about the Enterprise module? AFAIK its a joint project between RKK
Energia and Spacehab?

On hold waiting for customers, last I heard.

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FGB-2 has been 70% complete since 1997.

Note that it is RSC Energia that is complaining about funds, and RSC
Energia has nothing to do with FGB-2.



"Jorge R. Frank" wrote in message ...
"Nikolaj Ravn Hansen" wrote in
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No, not even close. Russia has redirected funding from the later ISS
modules to keep the Soyuz/Progress line going.

So no construction of Russian modules are going on at the moment at all?

I would certainly hope not. It would be hypocritical for the Russians to
complain about not getting US/European funding for Soyuz/Progress craft
they agreed to provide with their own funding, while putting funding into
Russian modules that won't be needed for years, if at all.

What about the Enterprise module? AFAIK its a joint project between RKK
Energia and Spacehab?

On hold waiting for customers, last I heard.

(Explorer8939) wrote in
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FGB-2 has been 70% complete since 1997.

Note that it is RSC Energia that is complaining about funds, and RSC
Energia has nothing to do with FGB-2.

You are correct, in one sense: Khrunichev owns FGB-2. But RSC Energia is
complaining about a lack of funds from the Russian government - the same
government that is (legally) responsible for providing UDM (FGB-2) to ISS.

The other possibility is that Khrunichev could complete the module
commercially, using its own funds and/or those of a partner. Khrunichev
signed just such a deal with Boeing several years ago, but I don't think
anything has come of it. I'd love to see Boeing/Khrunichev finish FGB-2,
but right now I don't think it will happen. It's in the same "no-customer"
limbo as Spacehab/Energia's Enterprise module.

If the Russian government can't see fit to provide adequate funds for
Soyuz/Progress, which are on the "critical path" for keeping the station
manned, then they have no business funding UDM/FGB-2 or the research
modules, which are not on the critical path.

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Except that FGB-2 *could* carry 3 Progress' worth of logistics to ISS.
One could argue that it would make more sense to fund FGB-2 rather
than those Progress.

But not me.



"Jorge R. Frank" wrote in message ...
(Explorer8939) wrote in
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FGB-2 has been 70% complete since 1997.

Note that it is RSC Energia that is complaining about funds, and RSC
Energia has nothing to do with FGB-2.

You are correct, in one sense: Khrunichev owns FGB-2. But RSC Energia is
complaining about a lack of funds from the Russian government - the same
government that is (legally) responsible for providing UDM (FGB-2) to ISS.

The other possibility is that Khrunichev could complete the module
commercially, using its own funds and/or those of a partner. Khrunichev
signed just such a deal with Boeing several years ago, but I don't think
anything has come of it. I'd love to see Boeing/Khrunichev finish FGB-2,
but right now I don't think it will happen. It's in the same "no-customer"
limbo as Spacehab/Energia's Enterprise module.

If the Russian government can't see fit to provide adequate funds for
Soyuz/Progress, which are on the "critical path" for keeping the station
manned, then they have no business funding UDM/FGB-2 or the research
modules, which are not on the critical path.

"Explorer8939" wrote in message
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Except that FGB-2 *could* carry 3 Progress' worth of logistics to ISS.
One could argue that it would make more sense to fund FGB-2 rather
than those Progress.

But not me.

You're right to disagree with it. I'm certain that FGB-2 would cost a lot
more than three Progress craft.

I'd *love* to see the Russian Segment of the ISS completed. But it isn't
going to happen. Ever. The money and the motivation just aren't there.

--Chris