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Old May 20th 05, 03:47 PM
Jeffrey Cornish
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Default New pictures of the Russian 'Kliper'

It looks like they are bending metal, boys!

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...032/index.html

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Old May 20th 05, 04:44 PM
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Jeffrey Cornish wrote:
It looks like they are bending metal, boys!


http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...032/index.html


My technical russian vocabulary is a bit limited, but it would seem
these are all mockups in various scales up to 1:1 rather than potential
flight hardware.

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Old May 20th 05, 05:05 PM
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it would seem these are all mockups

What gave it away? The two-by-fours?

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Old May 20th 05, 06:24 PM
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"Jeffrey Cornish" wrote in
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It looks like they are bending metal, boys!

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...allery_032/ind
ex.html


Nope, they're all mockups. The real hardware is still
unfunded and a few years away.

Interesting details include the foldback seats with
shock absorbers for the final landing phase.

The crew cabin is downright roomy partly because of that;
I would infer that a cargo-only flight with the four
rear seats removed could haul a pretty fair volume of
equipment and supplies. Still mass-limited, of course,
and bulky items won't fit through the Soyuz-derived
rear cabin's docking port. I wonder if variants won't
come with a full-sized ISS port?

The winged variant presumably doesn't have horizontal
landing capability--wings are too small and even simple
skid-style landing gear would add excessive weight.

--Damon

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Old May 20th 05, 08:37 PM
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: it would seem these are all mockups

: What gave it away? The two-by-fours?

They are 2 by 3s!!!
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Old May 21st 05, 04:53 AM
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"Jeffrey Cornish" wrote:

It looks like they are bending metal, boys!

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...032/index.html


It's a mockup - a much photographed mockup that folks keep pointing to
as 'new' every time they stumble onto them.

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Old May 21st 05, 09:54 AM
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Jeffrey Cornish wrote:
It looks like they are bending metal, boys!



http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...032/index.html

would seem these are all mockups in various scales up to 1:1 rather than

potential
flight hardware.


Boeing and Lockheed still haven't managed to make mock-ups. T/Space has a
nice one though.

Nathan


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Old May 21st 05, 03:58 PM
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Jeffrey Cornish" wrote:

It looks like they are bending metal, boys!


http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/c...ry_032/index.h

tml

It's a mockup - a much photographed mockup that folks keep pointing to
as 'new' every time they stumble onto them.


The full scale Shuttle C mockup was really cool looking. Too bad
development costs would have been so high, so that it wouldn't have "paid
for itself" if used for launching station modules.

This is at space.com, but I'm sure the original picture is in one of the
NASA picture archives.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W5F112E1B

Is it me, or is the module in the Shuttle C bay a "full length" module?

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Old May 21st 05, 09:55 PM
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On 2005-05-21, Jeff Findley wrote:

The full scale Shuttle C mockup was really cool looking. Too bad
development costs would have been so high, so that it wouldn't have "paid
for itself" if used for launching station modules.

This is at space.com, but I'm sure the original picture is in one of the
NASA picture archives.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W5F112E1B


This is the picture in Jenkins; I assume it's a NASA image, but it
doesn't seem to be listed on NIX yet.

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