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![]() wrote: There is a guy named Mavis on a space ship. The space ship is at rest and he measures the ship to be "60m" long. The ship then accelerates to a speed of "0.8c", where "c" is the speed of light. Now, due to relativity Mavis will no longer measure the ship to be "60m". Instead, the length of the ship as measured by Mavis will be longer than "60m". I'm sure you are all familiar with the equation "l =3D 1/y * l_o" where "l" is the length of the space ship at rest and equals "60m" "l_o" is the length of the ship travelling at "0.8c" as measured by Mavis "y" equals "1/sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2)" Now "1/y" equals "0.6". So "l_0" equals "100m". No, l_0 =3D l(sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2)). So l_0 =3D (60m)(0.6) =3D 36m. So it becomes shorter to an observer who it is moving relative to. Now, Mavis can measure the ship in various ways. If he measures the space ship using light signals he will find that the ship is "100m" long. However, if he measures the ship with a ruler he will find that the ship measures "60m". The reason why the ship hasn't expanded when measured with a ruler is because the ruler *itself* has also expanded! No. If he uses either light signals or a ruler, he will still measure 60m to him. This leads to the Big Question: the Big Question #1: Does this not contradict Einstein's first postulate, the Principle of Relativity, which states that "the laws of physics are the same in every inertial frame of reference." Because obviously if Mavis can figure out what velocity the ship is travelling at then there must be an absolute frame of reference, that is, a frame of reference from which to measure the velocity of the ship. He cannot figure out the velocity of the ship by measuring anything on board the ship. Here's another way of looking at it: We all are familiar with the fact that "relativistic mass" and "rest mass" are related by the following equation: "m_r =3D y * m" where "m_r" is the "relativistic mass" "m" is the "rest mass" "y" equals "1/sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2)" Let's say that we have a brick on a scale on the Earth. Right now it weighs "3 kg". Now, what if by some extraordinary spacial event that the Earth was sent out into space accelerating till is acquired a velocity of "0.8c". Now, the relativistic mass of the brick will be "5 kg". The scale will definetely weigh the brick to be more than "3 kg"! No scale on the ship will weigh the brick at more than 3 kg. Only if the brick were to hit something that was stationary relative to its 0=2E8c speed would it hit with an energy as though it weighed 5 kg. We again return to the Big Question: the Big Question: Does this not contradict Einstein's first postulate, the Principle of Relativity, which states that "the laws of physics are the same in every inertial frame of reference." Because obviously if Mavis can figure out what velocity the ship is travelling at then there must be an absolute frame of reference, that is, a frame of reference from which to measure the velocity of the ship. ---- You can view my paper (which will be completed pending the answers to this message) "A Collection of Ideas" at... ...http://www.angelfire.com/un/rv No. Einstein's postulate is never violated in this example. Double-A |
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