REAL Americans will buy Meade, NOT Celestron

Sure it's a flame, but it's based on cold, jobless fact.
The fairy tale is over. The B.S. David versus Goliath
(Celestron versus Meade) fantasy is put to rest.
Now it's Wing Po Ling versus Joe America and buyers will
have to make a decision, as to who they will support.
The only good thing coming out of this will be that the
crybabies who lamented Celestron's business incompetence
as being due to Meade will FINALLY have to shut up!
Meade, for now, is still mfg'ing the big scopes in
California, as odd as that sounds. So, IMO, if any of you
profess any interest at all in the American worker, you'll
buy the Meades. At this point, you have no incentive whatsoever
to buy Celestron since pricing for both scopes is virtually
identical. If, at some point, Celestron scopes drop in price
due to their "migration" of production to RED China, then you'll
(like all Walmart shoppers) have a good reason to buy from the
Chinese. Until then, anyone who buys a Celestron must still be
labouring under the delusion that they are "fighting for the
underdog." Well, the underdog just turned traitor, so what
is it going to be, Americans?
-Rich

You did sell Meade scopes once, right ?

Sure it's a flame, but it's based on cold, jobless fact. The fairy tale
is over. The B.S. David versus Goliath (Celestron versus Meade) fantasy
is put to rest. Now it's Wing Po Ling versus Joe America and buyers will
have to make a decision, as to who they will support. The only good
thing coming out of this will be that the crybabies who lamented
Celestron's business incompetence as being due to Meade will FINALLY
have to shut up! Meade, for now, is still mfg'ing the big scopes in
California, as odd as that sounds. So, IMO, if any of you profess any
interest at all in the American worker, you'll buy the Meades. At this
point, you have no incentive whatsoever to buy Celestron since pricing
for both scopes is virtually identical. If, at some point, Celestron
scopes drop in price due to their "migration" of production to RED
China, then you'll (like all Walmart shoppers) have a good reason to buy
from the Chinese. Until then, anyone who buys a Celestron must still be
labouring under the delusion that they are "fighting for the underdog."
Well, the underdog just turned traitor, so what is it going to be,
Americans?
-Rich
---------------------------------------------------------------

It's a flame? Richard, you live in Canada, don't you? (Not that I
suppose it matters one way, or another)

So where should the discrimination end Richard? If Celestron continues
to make thier "high end scopes" (SCT's), and manufactures them abroad,
I personally doubt that you'd be seeing any price drops.

So, what about Meade? Can anyone acurately describe what exactly Meade
is making currently in Mexico? I personally know of thier tripods for
thier SCT's for one.

What else is being made there? I'm sure Meade makes a nice profit on
these items by paying Mexicans substandard labor wages in comparison to
what Americans would be earning. Call Meade, and ask them what the cost
is for a Giant Field Tripod? Last I heard was $750.00 US

I understand Fender Guitar makes some of thier products in Mexico, and
has been doing so for quite a few years. What about GM, Chrysler, and
other car makers? Should America Boycott all foreign made products?

Would that save our asses? Hell, people in this country will drive 10
miles further out of thier way to save a $1.00 on a few items at Wal
Mart, rather than patronize a local Mom, and Pop Grocery Store.

Little by little, the US will not be able to compete in any shape or
form to countries like Mexico, and China. The handwriting's on the wall,
the United States is going to face a very bleak future. America
definitely has its ass in a bind. Mark D.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:11:12 -0400, RichA wrote:
So, IMO, if any of you
profess any interest at all in the American worker, you'll
buy the Meades.


Is it possible that the Meade Starfinder dobsonian series was the last
MOSTLY American made scope produced? I say MOSTLY because I think the
cheap 6 x 30 finder and the junk model #77 plastic focuser are probably the
only parts of it which are imported. I have the 12.5 inch Starfinder and
am very happy and satisfied with its operation.



--
Martin R. Howell
"Photographs From the Universe of Amateur Astronomy"
http://members.isp.com/universeofama...nomy%40isp.com

Buy Meade and tell Celestron/Synta management that is our decision until we
are guaranteed that all Celestron production will continue at the Torrance
facility.

Bubba


"RichA" wrote in message
...
Sure it's a flame, but it's based on cold, jobless fact.
The fairy tale is over. The B.S. David versus Goliath
(Celestron versus Meade) fantasy is put to rest.
Now it's Wing Po Ling versus Joe America and buyers will
have to make a decision, as to who they will support.
The only good thing coming out of this will be that the
crybabies who lamented Celestron's business incompetence
as being due to Meade will FINALLY have to shut up!
Meade, for now, is still mfg'ing the big scopes in
California, as odd as that sounds. So, IMO, if any of you
profess any interest at all in the American worker, you'll
buy the Meades. At this point, you have no incentive whatsoever
to buy Celestron since pricing for both scopes is virtually
identical. If, at some point, Celestron scopes drop in price
due to their "migration" of production to RED China, then you'll
(like all Walmart shoppers) have a good reason to buy from the
Chinese. Until then, anyone who buys a Celestron must still be
labouring under the delusion that they are "fighting for the
underdog." Well, the underdog just turned traitor, so what
is it going to be, Americans?
-Rich

America needs to do something now and support to good folks at the Torrance
Celestron facility. Send a strong message to Synta that if they eliminate
manufacturing in Torrance we will buy Meade scopes.

Bubba


"Mark D" wrote in message
...
Sure it's a flame, but it's based on cold, jobless fact. The fairy tale
is over. The B.S. David versus Goliath (Celestron versus Meade) fantasy
is put to rest. Now it's Wing Po Ling versus Joe America and buyers will
have to make a decision, as to who they will support. The only good
thing coming out of this will be that the crybabies who lamented
Celestron's business incompetence as being due to Meade will FINALLY
have to shut up! Meade, for now, is still mfg'ing the big scopes in
California, as odd as that sounds. So, IMO, if any of you profess any
interest at all in the American worker, you'll buy the Meades. At this
point, you have no incentive whatsoever to buy Celestron since pricing
for both scopes is virtually identical. If, at some point, Celestron
scopes drop in price due to their "migration" of production to RED
China, then you'll (like all Walmart shoppers) have a good reason to buy
from the Chinese. Until then, anyone who buys a Celestron must still be
labouring under the delusion that they are "fighting for the underdog."
Well, the underdog just turned traitor, so what is it going to be,
Americans?
-Rich
---------------------------------------------------------------

It's a flame? Richard, you live in Canada, don't you? (Not that I
suppose it matters one way, or another)

So where should the discrimination end Richard? If Celestron continues
to make thier "high end scopes" (SCT's), and manufactures them abroad,
I personally doubt that you'd be seeing any price drops.

So, what about Meade? Can anyone acurately describe what exactly Meade
is making currently in Mexico? I personally know of thier tripods for
thier SCT's for one.

What else is being made there? I'm sure Meade makes a nice profit on
these items by paying Mexicans substandard labor wages in comparison to
what Americans would be earning. Call Meade, and ask them what the cost
is for a Giant Field Tripod? Last I heard was $750.00 US

I understand Fender Guitar makes some of thier products in Mexico, and
has been doing so for quite a few years. What about GM, Chrysler, and
other car makers? Should America Boycott all foreign made products?

Would that save our asses? Hell, people in this country will drive 10
miles further out of thier way to save a $1.00 on a few items at Wal
Mart, rather than patronize a local Mom, and Pop Grocery Store.

Little by little, the US will not be able to compete in any shape or
form to countries like Mexico, and China. The handwriting's on the wall,
the United States is going to face a very bleak future. America
definitely has its ass in a bind. Mark D.

RichA wrote:
Sure it's a flame,


Rich.

Rich, Rich, Rich.


sigh


TBerk

real Americans will buy cheap--Why is Wal-Mart successful!
"RichA" wrote in message
...
Sure it's a flame, but it's based on cold, jobless fact.
The fairy tale is over. The B.S. David versus Goliath
(Celestron versus Meade) fantasy is put to rest.
Now it's Wing Po Ling versus Joe America and buyers will
have to make a decision, as to who they will support.
The only good thing coming out of this will be that the
crybabies who lamented Celestron's business incompetence
as being due to Meade will FINALLY have to shut up!
Meade, for now, is still mfg'ing the big scopes in
California, as odd as that sounds. So, IMO, if any of you
profess any interest at all in the American worker, you'll
buy the Meades. At this point, you have no incentive whatsoever
to buy Celestron since pricing for both scopes is virtually
identical. If, at some point, Celestron scopes drop in price
due to their "migration" of production to RED China, then you'll
(like all Walmart shoppers) have a good reason to buy from the
Chinese. Until then, anyone who buys a Celestron must still be
labouring under the delusion that they are "fighting for the
underdog." Well, the underdog just turned traitor, so what
is it going to be, Americans?
-Rich

"Bubba DeBub" wrote in message
newsG18e.12047$%c1.11864@fed1read05...
Buy Meade and tell Celestron/Synta management that is our decision until
we are guaranteed that all Celestron production will continue at the
Torrance facility.

Bubba

Lets see if I've got this right. You're going to support the workers in
Torrence by not buying what they make. Is that right?

;^)
Ed T.

It's odd looking at this from the UK:

1 Meade and Celestron were solidly vilified until Celestron was
bought out. Now Meade is a bastion of Americanism. Maybe the
talking-down claimed the weaker of the two - congratulations! Who
will you talk-down next? - Televue?

2 The UK's last volume car manufactuer is now to close, losing 10,000+
jobs in that and support firms, because the Chinese DIDN'T buy them
out.

Roger