Equinox/ orbital orientation

Anyone and I mean anyone can appreceate that the Equinox is generated
by orbital orientation to the Sun running parallel with longitude
coordinates.

http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronom...ages/04f15.jpg

Traditionally recognition of the Equinoxes focus on seasonal climate
change but astronomically this has no benefit except to support
erroneous view that Equinox is a product of axial orientation at 90
degrees to the Sun/Earth line.

http://kids.msfc.nasa.gov/earth/seas...rthSeasons.asp

Listening to that explanation from an astronomical point of view is
painful because astronomers concerned with variations between constant
axial and variable orbital motion and their orientation to each other
suffer the dilution to hemispherical differences in climate.

For climatological purposes it is no big deal to consider
hemispherical tilt to and away from the Sun but losing the change is
orbital orientation and the rate of change in that orientation in
correspondence with Kepler's second law is unforgivable.

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...s/980116c.html

The utter vandalism in forcing axial Lat/Long coordinates into
celestial coordinates by trumping up a false axial tilt component into
the Equation of Time must rank as one of the most brutal maneuvers in
any discipline,anywhere in the history of humanity.After facilitating
the equable day and subsequently the pace by which clocks maintain the
equable pace of hours,minutes and seconds,men decided to destroy the
inheritance just because they needed to map 'time' against distance
for terrestial ballistics.

This is not an appeal to go back to a former era (except to review the
error) but without recognition of the correct format there is no
possibility to do astronomical modelling,no way to teach kids that the
Earth has an orbital shadow which changes its orientation to the Sun as
we sweep in and out of it with each rotation of the Earth.

Maybe it is because I am a Christian that I understand these things
while around me men have accepted a lesser view of history and believe
what they are told out of indoctrinal convenience.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04352b.htm

:yawn:

Go to sleep now with Newton watching over you or all those theorists
trying to sell you a parallel universe or something exotic.Yawn out you
explanations to kids and tell them how great Isaac or Albert was and
then put them to sleep into the same abstract universe which most
people would call nightmares.


Liked your sunset pictures -

http://www.pyroport.com/astro/

Pity that is all you will ever see,sunrise/sunset.

Astronomers can enjoy these images as another view of the Earth
passing into and out of its orbital shadow but it has been so long
since those people walked the planet,beaten by the brute mentality of
cataloguers and mathematicians pretending to be astronomers.

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Go to sleep now with Newton watching over you or all those theorists
trying to sell you a parallel universe or something exotic.Yawn out you
explanations to kids and tell them how great Isaac or Albert was and
then put them to sleep into the same abstract universe which most
people would call nightmares.


Liked your sunset pictures -

http://www.pyroport.com/astro/

Pity that is all you will ever see,sunrise/sunset.

Astronomers can enjoy these images as another view of the Earth
passing into and out of its orbital shadow but it has been so long
since those people walked the planet,beaten by the brute mentality of
cataloguers and mathematicians pretending to be astronomers.

Sorry, but as a newbie to all this, could you please explain your argument
concisely and completely ? (preferably without tints of tourettes).

It's quite nice being oblivious to the meaning in these statements!


--
Beeb
"You can see a million miles tonight, but you can't get very far"
Adam Duritz, Counting Crows - Mrs Potter's Lullaby

adm wrote:
wrote in message
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Go to sleep now with Newton watching over you or all those
theorists
trying to sell you a parallel universe or something exotic.Yawn out
you
explanations to kids and tell them how great Isaac or Albert was
and
then put them to sleep into the same abstract universe which most
people would call nightmares.


Liked your sunset pictures -

http://www.pyroport.com/astro/

Pity that is all you will ever see,sunrise/sunset.

Astronomers can enjoy these images as another view of the Earth
passing into and out of its orbital shadow but it has been so long
since those people walked the planet,beaten by the brute mentality
of
cataloguers and mathematicians pretending to be astronomers.

Sorry, but as a newbie to all this, could you please explain your
argument
concisely and completely ?

Cataloguers screwed up by assigning an axial tilt component to the
Equation of time which forces recognition of seasonal changes such as
daylight/darkness asymmetry.

http://www.sundials.co.uk/tbana.htm

In the confusion many are incapable of seperating the idea that the
total lenght of day from noon to noon changes rather than changes in
the lenght of daylight/darkness,sunrise/sunset and the the Equation of
time has nothing to do with any perceived motion of the Sun above or
below the equator.

You need a sundialist who can think in terms of the motion of the Earth
and the Sun as a fixed reference rather than the motion of the Sun
causing the change in a shadow across the dial.

The error originated with John Flamsteed and was adopted by Newton and
it is downhill ever since,at least in astronomical terms.If you imagine
that these guys know what they are doing,I assure you they do not.

Sorry.