Accidents in Space on UK TV

Recorded this on my PVR it was on UK discovery Channel.

Featured movie footage of my hero Vladimir Komarov, including of him,
of a Soyuz rocket taking off (do they use any old footage for that do
you think?) and film of the crash scene, licking flames and all. also
they showed recovery men digging into the wreckage with shovels. There
was also film of his Funeral.

Additionally there was rather harrowing film of Soyuz-11 landing and a
recovery guy tentatively touching the hot capsule. Then they cut to the
recuss team trying to revive the crew.

there was also stuff on Bonderchenko, Apollos 1, 12 and 13 and Challenger.

Anyone else seen it?

Ste


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Ste Kearney wrote...
Recorded this on my PVR it was on UK discovery Channel.
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there was also stuff on Bonderchenko, Apollos 1, 12 and 13 and
Challenger.

Anyone else seen it?

Nope. Is it out on Bittorrent yet?

BTW, its Bondarenko. The full sad story is at:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html

"After medical tests," explained Golovanov's article, "Bondarenko
removed the sensors attached to him, cleaned the spots where they had been
attached with cotton wool soaked in alcohol, and without looking threw away
the cotton wool-- which landed on the ring of an electric hot plate. In the
oxygen-charged atmosphere the flames immediately filled the small space of
the chamber." ..."He died eight hours later from the shock of the burns.

- Peter

On 2005-02-08 11:35:05 +0000, "Peter Smith"
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Ste Kearney wrote...
Recorded this on my PVR it was on UK discovery Channel.
snip
there was also stuff on Bonderchenko, Apollos 1, 12 and 13 and
Challenger.

Anyone else seen it?

Nope. Is it out on Bittorrent yet?

BTW, its Bondarenko. The full sad story is at:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html

"After medical tests," explained Golovanov's article, "Bondarenko
removed the sensors attached to him, cleaned the spots where they had been
attached with cotton wool soaked in alcohol, and without looking threw away
the cotton wool-- which landed on the ring of an electric hot plate. In the
oxygen-charged atmosphere the flames immediately filled the small space of
the chamber." ..."He died eight hours later from the shock of the burns.

- Peter

They spoke to the doc (was Golovanov) who examined him, he said he had
no skin, no hair or no eyes even......

Yuk.

I'm trying to see if it's on a uk torrent site which I use but not yet.
I have it on SkyPlus (PVR) but no way off getting it off!

Ste


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Thanks for the news, we'll all find ways to get more info from it.
Can you make any jpg images of the most interesting scenes?

On 2005-02-08 14:56:57 +0000, "Jim Oberg" said:

Thanks for the news, we'll all find ways to get more info from it.
Can you make any jpg images of the most interesting scenes?

I am going to try a capture it and Bit torrent it. Should only be about
300/400mb if I can work out how to get it off the Sky+ box. I may have
to invest in some kit - been meaning to so this might do it for me!

As my interest is in the Soviet stuff, I can remember (til I watch it again!):

Colour footage of a Soviet space walking. Looked early and I would have
said it was Leonov. But's it's almost 35mm quality and very short so
might be a mock up. There was also a cosmonaut being filmed in a
centrifuge, going into the oxygen room, and footage of Bondarenko
walking shirtless and sporting a fair old six-pack!

And it showed a movie of the explosion at baikonur.

Also footage of Apollo 1, astronauts going to capsule, burnt out
capsule and it being lifted off the rocket onto a trailer.

Realy good!

Steve


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And it showed a movie of the explosion at baikonur.

Also footage of Apollo 1, astronauts going to capsule, burnt out
capsule and it being lifted off the rocket onto a trailer.

Realy good!

God that sounds awful - thats not what I meant. Sorry for offence just
meant the programme was very good.



Steve


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Peter Smith wrote:

BTW, its Bondarenko. The full sad story is at:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html

"In mid-May 1961 weak calls for help were picked up in Europe,
evidently from an orbiting spacecraft with two cosmonauts aboard."

"On October 14, 1961, a multiman Soviet spacecraft was knocked off
course by a solar flare and vanished into deep space ."

"Radio trackers in Italy detected a fatal space mission in November
1962, and some believe that a cosmonaut named Belokonev died at that time."

Am I supposed to take this seriously?

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In article ,
says...
Peter Smith wrote:

BTW, its Bondarenko. The full sad story is at:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html

"In mid-May 1961 weak calls for help were picked up in Europe,
evidently from an orbiting spacecraft with two cosmonauts aboard."

"On October 14, 1961, a multiman Soviet spacecraft was knocked off
course by a solar flare and vanished into deep space ."

"Radio trackers in Italy detected a fatal space mission in November
1962, and some believe that a cosmonaut named Belokonev died at that time."

Am I supposed to take this seriously?

No.

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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 03:49:50 GMT, Doug...
wrote:

In article ,
says...
Peter Smith wrote:

BTW, its Bondarenko. The full sad story is at:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html

"In mid-May 1961 weak calls for help were picked up in Europe,
evidently from an orbiting spacecraft with two cosmonauts aboard."

"On October 14, 1961, a multiman Soviet spacecraft was knocked off
course by a solar flare and vanished into deep space ."

"Radio trackers in Italy detected a fatal space mission in November
1962, and some believe that a cosmonaut named Belokonev died at that time."

Am I supposed to take this seriously?

No.

[Geo]

....Are you kidding? You're supposed to take it seriously, while
wrapped in a sacred shroud!

[/Geo]

....All kidding aside, I have to give Geo one bit of credit: out of all
the CT nutters I've come across in my day - and during my Grassy Knoll
and Roswell research days I've met my share of 'em - Geo's probably
the only polite and halfway rational one I can name off the top of my
head, much less pull up on paper. Doesn't mean his defense of the J-C
brothers is any more valid than their bull**** theories, but one has
to admit that if other nutballs and conspiracy theorists were this
approachable, we'd probably have a lot more people believing really
weird things really did happen.

....On the other hand, that's a scary concept unto itself. If "scott"
were to take this approach with his and Betty's bogus theories, I
could see an angry mob taking Lee Atwood and burning him at the stake
in an eye-for-an-eye act of vengeance. And if you think *that's*
frightening, imagine Brad Guth being "Mr. Polite" and actually
offering evidence that's not a photo of a cheese pizza mistakingly
identified as Mar...er..Venus, or J*** T***** M****n showing boosters
crossing on a first generation photo instead of the 8th gen xeroxes
he's passing off as originals, and making sure his psychotic offspring
are nowhere to be seen or heard.

....Perhaps that's the safety valve in all this. 99.9% of the
Conspiracy Theorists' cases fall apart due to one or both of two
factors: their cases hold water like a Hula Hoop big enough to drive a
truck through, and their personalities and concepts of reality tend to
be totally skewed enough in tandem that within the first five minutes
it's obvious you're dealing with a mental case and should seek shelter
as soon as possible if said nutball is not currently in a
straightjacket and/or secured inside a rubber room at the funny farm.

....And that's why, despite the fact that he and the J-C Brothers are
totally full of **** based on paranoid misconceptions of Cold War data
that was either forged or intercepted and taken totally out of context
and run through a shredder before analysis, I actually miss Geo when
he's not around here. Unlike Guth, ~CT, LaToilet, "scott", and
Killfile Hell's most senior life incarcerate, he comes across as being
at least halfway sane, and 549.375% more polite and/or professional
than those five whacko ward cases combined.

....In fact, I'll go so far as to admit that I have somewhat of a
belief in favor of the Shroud of Turin being as old as it was
originally claimed to be. It probably wasn't Yeshua Ben Yosef(*)
burial shroud, and probably wasn't even his bath towel or beach
blanket, either. But then again, religions are founded on faith, and
if faith in a moldy old bloodstained blanket that looks like it was
run through an architectural-scale xerox machine with some hippie
lying face down on it, and it actually strengthens the belief for the
better, then so be it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to see how much has been bid on that
McWormburger I put up on eBay is doing. Should be interesting to see
how much people will pay for a burger whose bun has the visage of
Satan from "South Park" appearing on it...

(*) Yeah, I've been reading Asimov's Guide to the Bible, a copy of my
own was secured as a Chrisnukkah present, and original pronounciations
and spellings of Hebraic and Judaic names has been a topic I and and
old friend have been exchanging e-mails on of late. Since he's quite a
bit more Jewish than I am, I'm actually inclined to agree on his
original name for Jesus than Asimov's.
OM

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On 2005-02-08 10:53:03 +0000, Ste Kearney said:

Recorded this on my PVR it was on UK discovery Channel.

Featured movie footage of my hero Vladimir Komarov, including of him,
of a Soyuz rocket taking off (do they use any old footage for that do
you think?) and film of the crash scene, licking flames and all. also
they showed recovery men digging into the wreckage with shovels. There
was also film of his Funeral.

Additionally there was rather harrowing film of Soyuz-11 landing and a
recovery guy tentatively touching the hot capsule. Then they cut to the
recuss team trying to revive the crew.

there was also stuff on Bonderchenko, Apollos 1, 12 and 13 and Challenger.

Anyone else seen it?

Ste

I've watched it again and WRT Soyuz-1 and Komarov it shows what appears
to be footage of Soyuz-1 hitting the ground.

Looks like it's filmed from a helicopter, colour, very grainy. Shows a
definate Soyuz shaped capsule and two unopened parachutes trailing
behind. Whatever it is it hits the ground with fearsome velocity and
kicks up a huge cloud of dust and debris. The voiceover talks as if it
is Soyuz-1 but never specifically does!

This section also shows the burning wreckage, footage of komarovs
funeral in Red Square and finally a small grave and stone erected at
the crash site. As I'm off to Chelyabinsk in the Southern Ural tomorrow
wonder how far it is away? Nr to Orenburg AIUI.

I'd like to pay my respects, I'm sure that's where Komarov 'is'. Not
behind that plaque in the Kremlin Wall.

Ste


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