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Old December 9th 04, 04:35 AM
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I am finally reading Apollo by Murray and Cox, the paperback edition of
recently republished by South Mountain Books (an autographed copy from Boggs
SpaceBooks).

When I can start reading a book and look up at the clock and not sure if 2
or 14 hours have passed, the book qualifies for my 5 stars rating in
storytelling. It is a very well written book.
Now off to bed and dreaming of Gerry Griffin staring at EECOM John Aaron.
"Say Again. S.C.E. to Off ?"

nite. ....zzzzzzz

I was talking to Donald Boggs at Boggs SpaceBooks on Wednesday (placing my
Christmas book orders - of course) and I asked him about the status on
James
Hansen's book. They are taking pre-orders for the book (autographed by
James Hansen). It is still expected for early 2005 release.
http://www.boggsspace.com/mall/first_man.asp

g. beat



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Old December 9th 04, 08:55 AM
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 04:35:42 GMT, "w9gb"
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I am finally reading Apollo by Murray and Cox, the paperback edition of
recently republished by South Mountain Books (an autographed copy from Boggs
SpaceBooks).


....Did M&C make any changes and/or updates to the book, or is it
printed as-is, with all the annoyingly incorrect capitalization
styles?

OM

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Old December 9th 04, 01:59 PM
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 04:35:42 GMT, "w9gb"
wrote:

I am finally reading Apollo by Murray and Cox, the paperback edition of
recently republished by South Mountain Books (an autographed copy from Boggs
SpaceBooks).


...Did M&C make any changes and/or updates to the book, or is it
printed as-is, with all the annoyingly incorrect capitalization
styles?

OM


They're aren't any corrections, so far as I can tell. There are also
some very annoying typo - a chapter title has a typo in it in every
single header in the chapter, for instance; in another case a footnote
just ends mid-sentence and doesn't carry over onto the next page.
Little stuff like that. However, it is still the single best
narrative, in my humble opinion, for capturing a gestalt of what
Apollo was, both as a technical accomplishment and as a personal
milestone in the lives of those involved.

What really ticks me off, however, is that I ordered it with a nagging
feeling that I'd read it when it was first published but couldn't
remember for sure and as most of my books remain contained in 21 boxes
in my garage I couldn't easily check. When it arrived I read the
first paragraph and knew I'd read it before. So somewhere I've got
the first edition as well as the current version. That's okay, typos
and all it was still worth buying twice, fifteen years apart!

--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
"Wow! This is like saying when engineers get involved, harmonic
oscillations tear apart bridges."
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Old December 9th 04, 02:37 PM
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Herb Schaltegger wrote:
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org


wrote:

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 04:35:42 GMT, "w9gb"


wrote:

I am finally reading Apollo by Murray and Cox, the paperback

edition of
recently republished by South Mountain Books (an autographed copy

from Boggs
SpaceBooks).


...Did M&C make any changes and/or updates to the book, or is it
printed as-is, with all the annoyingly incorrect capitalization
styles?

OM


They're aren't any corrections, so far as I can tell. There are also


some very annoying typo - a chapter title has a typo in it in every
single header in the chapter, for instance; in another case a

footnote
just ends mid-sentence and doesn't carry over onto the next page.
Little stuff like that. However, it is still the single best
narrative, in my humble opinion, for capturing a gestalt of what
Apollo was, both as a technical accomplishment and as a personal
milestone in the lives of those involved.

What really ticks me off, however, is that I ordered it with a

nagging
feeling that I'd read it when it was first published but couldn't
remember for sure and as most of my books remain contained in 21

boxes
in my garage I couldn't easily check. When it arrived I read the
first paragraph and knew I'd read it before. So somewhere I've got
the first edition as well as the current version. That's okay, typos


and all it was still worth buying twice, fifteen years apart!

--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
"Wow! This is like saying when engineers get involved, harmonic
oscillations tear apart bridges."
~Hop David
http://www.angryherb.net



I loved this book and have read it over several times along with
Chaikin's Man on the Moon. Every time I read those two books it's
exciting and depressing at the same time. Exciting because the books
allow you to live vicariously with those who were permitted to dream
big. Depressing because those dreams were extinguished all too quickly.
Gene DiGennaro
Baltimore,Md.

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Old December 9th 04, 03:01 PM
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I am finally reading Apollo by Murray and Cox, the paperback

edition of
recently republished by South Mountain Books (an autographed copy

from Boggs
SpaceBooks).

...Did M&C make any changes and/or updates to the book, or is it
printed as-is, with all the annoyingly incorrect capitalization
styles?

OM


They're aren't any corrections, so far as I can tell. There are also


some very annoying typo - a chapter title has a typo in it in every
single header in the chapter, for instance; in another case a

footnote
just ends mid-sentence and doesn't carry over onto the next page.
Little stuff like that. However, it is still the single best
narrative, in my humble opinion, for capturing a gestalt of what
Apollo was, both as a technical accomplishment and as a personal
milestone in the lives of those involved.


I loved this book and have read it over several times along with
Chaikin's Man on the Moon. Every time I read those two books it's
exciting and depressing at the same time. Exciting because the books
allow you to live vicariously with those who were permitted to dream
big. Depressing because those dreams were extinguished all too quickly.
Gene DiGennaro
Baltimore,Md.


Although the HBO production "From the Earth to the Moon" is based upon
Chaikin's book,
It is very apparent to me that Murray and Cox's Apollo served as the
"shadow" source material for many of the scenes and chapters of that 12 part
production - especially the events leading up to and after the Apollo 1 fire
(Part 2).

gb


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Old December 9th 04, 03:50 PM
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Funny you should mention Chaikin. I was just talking to someone about
that book; was anyone else offended by the section on Frank Borman and
Apollo 8? Just EXACTLY who did Borman think he was talking to,
ordering Jim Lovell and Bill Anders around like they were
three-year-olds????? Borman comes off as being the only Apollo mission
commander who understood the seriousness of being an Apollo mission
commander...Someone needs to take his ego down a few kilometers!!!!!
My father was only the Navy enlisted equivalent of a Navy Captain, but
if Frank had even THOUGHT about speaking to him like that he would have
handed Borman his you-know-whats! It's obvious Andrew Chaikin was
quite taken with the Colonel, like any adled schoolboy, but I wanted to
reach through that book and slug Borman--and he wasn't even talking to
me!
**shaking head in disgust**

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Old December 9th 04, 11:29 PM
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:59:51 -0600, Herb Schaltegger
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They're aren't any corrections, so far as I can tell. There are also
some very annoying typo - a chapter title has a typo in it in every
single header in the chapter, for instance;


I give up... which one? I didn't spot a typo in the chapter headers.

Brian
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Old December 9th 04, 11:32 PM
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:01:22 GMT, "w9gb"
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It is very apparent to me that Murray and Cox's Apollo served as the
"shadow" source material for many of the scenes and chapters of that 12 part
production - especially the events leading up to and after the Apollo 1 fire
(Part 2).


I think there is a high probability that Gray's "Angle of Attack"
(Apollo 1) and Pellegrino's "Chariots for Apollo" (Apollo 9) were also
cracked open more than once while writing FTETTM.

Brian
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Old December 10th 04, 12:36 AM
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In article ,
Brian Thorn wrote:

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:59:51 -0600, Herb Schaltegger
wrote:

They're aren't any corrections, so far as I can tell. There are also
some very annoying typo - a chapter title has a typo in it in every
single header in the chapter, for instance;


I give up... which one? I didn't spot a typo in the chapter headers.

Brian


"There was no mercy in those day", pp. 285-299. :-p

--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
"Wow! This is like saying when engineers get involved, harmonic
oscillations tear apart bridges."
~Hop David
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