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Old May 22nd 04, 08:05 AM
oliver geraghty
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The acceleration in the expansion rate of the universe is due to a loss of
mass to black holes.
If quasars consumed nine hundred percent of the present universe, the energy
of their meeting could only compare with a single event.



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Old May 24th 04, 04:18 AM
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Except that it doesn't go anywhere. That's one of the things that really
****es me off in science fiction. First example- a great Next Gen episode
with Scotty. Why in the world (no pun intended) would a Dyson Sphere cause

a
gravitational anomaly, if the solar system that was there did not? That

bit
of nonsense completely disrupted my suspension of disbelief, and made it
hard to enjoy the rest of the episode.


Because, you detect this huge gravitational pull, look there and hmm,
there's no sun. And no apparant sign of x-rays. Something strange is going
on. Let's go check it out.

(Of course a quick scan in infra-red would show something. :-)


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Old May 24th 04, 08:17 AM
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Except that it doesn't go anywhere. That's one of the things that really
****es me off in science fiction. First example- a great Next Gen episode
with Scotty. Why in the world (no pun intended) would a Dyson Sphere cause

a
gravitational anomaly, if the solar system that was there did not? That

bit
of nonsense completely disrupted my suspension of disbelief, and made it
hard to enjoy the rest of the episode.


Because, you detect this huge gravitational pull, look there and hmm,
there's no sun. And no apparant sign of x-rays. Something strange is going
on. Let's go check it out.

Star Trek doesn't add to its credibility by having _everything_
brilliantly illuminated, including the sphere.
And the Dyson Sphere (as well as Mr. Scott) was the Great Unused Plot to
beat all Great Unused Plots. The owners would have regarded the entire
Borg Collective as a convenient source of spare parts.
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Old May 24th 04, 07:49 PM
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"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message
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Because, you detect this huge gravitational pull, look there and hmm,
there's no sun.


Why would the gravitational pull iteself be *different*? Remember, they were
pulled out of warp because of a gravitation anomaly.

There may have been other oddities like the ones you suggested, but they
aren't mentioned in the show.

As it happens, I read an interview where one of the producers was asked
where the light came from that let us see the Sphere, since if the sun was
inside, it should have been black. The answer, of course, was that a black
dot on the screen wouldn't look good. I don't have a problem with that
because it's a good explanation. What isn't a good explanation is that a
"gravitational anomaly" did the job, when there are much more interesting
reasons, such as a multi-hundred-million kilometer blackbody. But then, that
assumes the writers know what a blackbody is, and that the audience is
intelligent enough to understand. What a shame Hollywood hasn't realized
both the public is smarter than it assumes, and that stories that appeal
higher than the waist are usually better.


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Old May 24th 04, 07:51 PM
Scott Hedrick
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"Jonathan Silverlight" wrote
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And the Dyson Sphere (as well as Mr. Scott) was the Great Unused Plot to
beat all Great Unused Plots. The owners would have regarded the entire
Borg Collective as a convenient source of spare parts.


The Borg would take over easily. After announcing that the Sphere would be
assimilated, the population of the Sphere would all suffer strokes from
laughing too hard.


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Old May 24th 04, 08:55 PM
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Scott Hedrick wrote:

But then, that
assumes the writers know what a blackbody is,


Nichelle Nichols? That's a blackbody if I ever saw one...zowie! :-)

Pat (panting)

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Old May 25th 04, 01:35 AM
Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)
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"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in

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Because, you detect this huge gravitational pull, look there and hmm,
there's no sun.


Why would the gravitational pull iteself be *different*? Remember, they

were
pulled out of warp because of a gravitation anomaly.


Well, my "GUESS" is simply that someone had mapped that area based on visual
light spectrum... they plotted their course not knowing there was a star
there... and voila.

Of course I'm just guessing completely here. :-)


There may have been other oddities like the ones you suggested, but they
aren't mentioned in the show.

As it happens, I read an interview where one of the producers was asked
where the light came from that let us see the Sphere, since if the sun was
inside, it should have been black. The answer, of course, was that a black
dot on the screen wouldn't look good. I don't have a problem with that
because it's a good explanation. What isn't a good explanation is that a
"gravitational anomaly" did the job, when there are much more interesting
reasons, such as a multi-hundred-million kilometer blackbody. But then,

that
assumes the writers know what a blackbody is, and that the audience is
intelligent enough to understand. What a shame Hollywood hasn't realized
both the public is smarter than it assumes, and that stories that appeal
higher than the waist are usually better.


This is one thing I liked about the movie Sneakers. Accurate enough to not
make me cringe and didn't bother dumbing down EVERYTHING.

(and a great cast. :-)





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Old May 25th 04, 01:46 AM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Nichelle Nichols? That's a blackbody if I ever saw one...zowie! :-)


Yes, indeed, a very fine blackbody, even years later, featherdancing before
the moon...


 




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