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I was getting used to having to find Mars images at
qt.exploratorium.edu/mars because NASA couldn't be bothered to hire people to upload images at the weekend ( or provide more than the occasional comment on their very crappy, confused, Flashy website ) but with Huygens, ESA have managed to make NASA look organised and on the ball. A lo-res Real-Media broadcast, without commentary ( of a mission they describe, as "historic" ), with tens of minutes of nothing but background chatter and tacky NASA-like woops and tears, then political civil servants saying nothing but what makes themselves seem important, then speakers in German and French with no translation, then idiots intruding with political and nationalistic comments on what they are trying to portray as an important international, scientific occasion. It's as if Neil Armstrong was asked to take the step again but this time to do a Southern accent. Whoever ran this needs to resign, then look back at the Spaceship One coverage to see how professionals organise this sort of thing. Now this publicly-funded mission is offering their public THREE lo-res, over-compressed images, and goodnight. ( I suppose we, the people, should at least be grateful that they aren't the pseudo-colour 3-D bull**** Mars images ESA has been distributing as public science of late. ) ESA needs to cut the crap. ESA needs to sack the career diplomatic euro-quota lackies and hire staff based on their talent and independent of their nationality, sex or seniority. ESA needs to give the raw data to the people who payed for it: Me, you, us, them, EVERYBODY! It's a shame all the above-mentioned **** was sitting on top of what one could just about detect was an amazing, historic event, made possible by brilliant engineers from all over this temperate little planet. Groutch |
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Jeffrey Bell wrote a good op-ed on this over at spacedaily:
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-05g.html I agree with the sentiment. ESA does some incredible science, but they really need to shape up when it comes to communicating with the public. |
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![]() Neil Halelamien wrote: Jeffrey Bell wrote a good op-ed on this over at spacedaily: http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-05g.html I agree with the sentiment. ESA does some incredible science, but they really need to shape up when it comes to communicating with the public. There is link in the above link to a site with raw images. Woo-hoo!!!! Yes, ESA blew it big time by not having this on _their_ website. |
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The images are spectacular, like hitching a ride down with Huygens.
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For raw images in a more downloadable form (if anyone wants to do any
image processing or animations), check he http://spacescience.ca/titan/raw/ |
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This project is a tremendous success. That you find the webcast
insufficiently entertaining is of little consequence. |
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curlyQlink wrote:
This project is a tremendous success. That you find the webcast insufficiently entertaining is of little consequence. Nobody is debating that the project is a tremdendous engineering and scientific success. The issue is that the public may not appreciate it as much as it would otherwise, due to ESA's poor PR skills. |
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curlyQlink wrote:
This project is a tremendous success. That you find the webcast insufficiently entertaining is of little consequence. How Soviet of you. -- It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries. http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." -Albert Einstein, authority |
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"curlyQlink" writes:
This project is a tremendous success. That you find the webcast insufficiently entertaining is of little consequence. If enough people find the webcast insufficiently entertaining, or more importantly, excessively annoying, this project may be the last project. Killing the ESA's planetary science budget would be a thing of more than a little consequence. There's enough inertia in the system that the Huygens webcast can't do that, but it could be sympotmatic of underlying problems that can. -- *John Schilling * "Anything worth doing, * *Member:AIAA,NRA,ACLU,SAS,LP * is worth doing for money" * *Chief Scientist & General Partner * -13th Rule of Acquisition * *White Elephant Research, LLC * "There is no substitute * * for success" * *661-718-0955 or 661-275-6795 * -58th Rule of Acquisition * |
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This project is a tremendous success.
Yes, that is why I wrote "an amazing, historic event, made possible by brilliant engineers from all over this temperate little planet." The mishandling by ESA PR of the data that the European and American public have paid for makes that public less likely to support future expenditure on similar missions. There was a window when the eyes of the world were on this mission and the data had to come out then to make maximum impact. ESA chose not to put the images out in the best form possible, as soon as possible, and chose not to put out the raw data so news sites could make their own high-quality images. Dribbling out bad images ( viz today's panaroma, which is a TIF of an overly, lossy-compressed image: http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/...d/Picture3.tif and all of the Mars Express images ) instead of good ones means that brilliant engineers will be less likely to be working on Huygens 2 any time soon. On the bright side, maybe they'll lay off some PR people first. Groutch |
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