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JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Veronica McGregor/Nancy Lovato (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Dolores Beasley (202) 358-1753 NASA Headquarters, Washington News Release: 2005-017 January 14, 2005 NASA Salutes Successful Huygens Probe NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe today offered congratulations to the European Space Agency (ESA) on the successful touchdown of its Huygens probe on Saturn's moon Titan. "The descent through Titan's atmosphere and down to its surface appeared to be perfect," Administrator O'Keefe said. "We congratulate ESA for their spectacular success. We're very proud of the Cassini-Huygens teams that helped to make this both an engineering and scientific victory, and we appreciate the dedication and support from our international partners." The probe entered Titan's upper atmosphere at about 5:15 a.m. EST Jan. 14. During its two and one-half hour descent to the surface of the moon, it sampled the chemical composition of the atmosphere. The probe continued transmitting data for more than 90 minutes after reaching the surface. The data was sent to NASA's Cassini spacecraft, and was recorded and relayed through NASA's Deep Space Network to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and to ESA's Space Operations Center in Darmstadt, Germany. The European Space Agency facility is the operations center for the Huygens probe mission. Data was received over one of two channels designed to be mostly redundant. JPL Director Dr. Charles Elachi said, "We congratulate our colleagues at ESA on the splendid performance of the Huygens probe and look forward to the science results of this effort. This has been a great example of international collaboration to explore our solar system." Cassini-Huygens is a joint mission of NASA, ESA and the Italian Space Agency. ESA's Huygens probe was carried to Saturn's orbit aboard Cassini, and sent on its way to Titan on Dec. 24, 2004. Cassini continues to orbit Saturn on a four-year prime mission to study the planet, its rings, moons and magnetosphere. "Our ESA colleagues have every reason to be very proud of the excellent manner in which the Huygens probe performed," said Robert T. Mitchell, Cassini program manager at JPL. "We are also proud of our support for this endeavor," he said. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. JPL designed, developed and assembled the Cassini orbiter. ESA built and managed the development of the Huygens probe and is in charge of the probe operations. ISA provided the high-gain antenna, much of the radio system and elements of several of Cassini's science instruments. More information about the Cassini-Huygens mission is available on the Web, at: http://www.nasa.gov/cassini and http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov . For information about NASA and agency programs on the Web, visit http://www.nasa.gov . -end- |
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![]() "vonroach" wrote in message ... On 14 Jan 2005 17:29:27 -0800, wrote: NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe today offered congratulations to the European Space Agency (ESA) on the successful touchdown of its Huygens probe on Saturn's moon Titan. So in essence NASA, ESA, and ISA are all patting themselves and each other on the back. How typical of political and academic bureaucracies. If you had any idea of the difficulty of what has been accomplished, you might do the same. It has been an incredible success at the first attempt in conditions for which there is no precedent. George |
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![]() So in essence NASA, ESA, and ISA are all patting themselves and each other on the back. How typical of political and academic bureaucracies. Well the damm thing did work. |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:53 -0000, "George Dishman"
wrote: If you had any idea of the difficulty of what has been accomplished, you might do the same. It has been an incredible success at the first attempt in conditions for which there is no precedent. George Tut tut George, Assorted manned and unmanned Moon landings and unmanned Mars landings offer a bit of a precedent. I note the further we go, the more hostile the sites become. I think the success is very credible, again demonstrating the power of Newton's laws in the solar system. I didn't include the Jupiter probe since it seemed trivial. Chandra has been a very successful mission. |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:11:17 GMT, robert casey
wrote: So in essence NASA, ESA, and ISA are all patting themselves and each other on the back. How typical of political and academic bureaucracies. Well the damm thing did work. Very true except for one glitch by an earthbound idiot who forgot to throw one switch to `on'. |
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![]() "vonroach" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:53 -0000, "George Dishman" wrote: If you had any idea of the difficulty of what has been accomplished, you might do the same. It has been an incredible success at the first attempt in conditions for which there is no precedent. George Tut tut George, Assorted manned and unmanned Moon landings and unmanned Mars landings offer a bit of a precedent. In both cases, the surface could be photographed and mapped and a preferred landing site selected. Although there's a thin atmosphere on Mars, we had a very good idea of its composition and the weather on Mars has been observed for decades. The only similar case I can think of was the Russian landings on Venus where cloud cover hid the surface, but again they had some idea of what they would find from radar. This is the first time a lander had to be able to survive either on land or float on a liquid of unknown density. I note the further we go, the more hostile the sites become. I think the success is very credible, again demonstrating the power of Newton's laws in the solar system. Newton's Laws are inadequate for the outer planets, they have to take relativistic effects into account. I didn't include the Jupiter probe since it seemed trivial. Chandra has been a very successful mission. I didn't mean to detract from other missions, but the conditions here had more unknowns than any other I can think of. Bottom line is that they could not really have done any better. Even the lost data channel was one of a redundant pair. George |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:17:46 -0000, "George Dishman"
wrote: Bottom line is that they could not really have done any better. Even the lost data channel was one of a redundant pair. Unfortunately that is not true. |
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![]() Newton's Laws are inadequate for the outer planets, they have to take relativistic effects into account. NO, that's near the Sun. Mercury's orbit didn't quite match Newton's laws, and for a while it was thought that there was a planet closer in. Someone gave it a name" Vulcan", but could never find it. Einstein's relativity theory took care of this fine. I didn't include the Jupiter probe since it seemed trivial. No camera, but otherwise just as hard to do. No camera just meant a lower data transmission rate. Chandra has been a very successful mission. I didn't mean to detract from other missions, but the conditions here had more unknowns than any other I can think of. Bottom line is that they could not really have done any better. Even the lost data channel was one of a redundant pair. A lot of space probe and satellite design work involves "fault tolerant" circuits. Such that a failure of some part doesn't kill the whole thing. Voyager 2 had a problem in its command receiver; an automatic frequency correction circuit got stuck and the receiver drifts like an old vacuum tube FM set. But JPL eventually characterized the drift patterns and just set the uplink carrier frequency to match the predicted receiver drift. Galileo had the infamous stuck dish antenna; and it turned out that the science data could be routed internally to an engineering telemetry antenna. At a lot slower rate though. Probably not by accident the design allowed this; some systems guy did the design to allow it just in case, likely at no additional cost. |
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vonroach wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:17:46 -0000, "George Dishman" wrote: Bottom line is that they could not really have done any better. Even the lost data channel was one of a redundant pair. Unfortunately that is not true. Yeah, like you never made a mistake..... The system was rigged so that such a stupid mistake didn't kill the mission. A realistic system has to contend with failures and mistakes, and should still be able to recover. |
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