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Old September 13th 04, 12:37 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
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Well so far I have not read in books or heard anyone in this group say
neutron stars are sci-fiction. We know they are out there,and their
usually seen as a binary system rotating very fast around each other.
Someday we will see this system having three neutron stars(tri-system)
It makes some sense to me with the strong mutual gravity attraction
these two neutron stars should move closer,and closer,and we should be
able to measure this shrinking distance. That means in time they will
collide. This scenario begs three questions. What happens when they slam
together? Will it be a blast of gamma photons? Will they just disappear
because their greater density created a single black hole? Well I say
it would take three neutron stars to create a single black hole. Bert

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Old September 13th 04, 02:50 PM
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Well so far I have not read in books or heard anyone in this group say
neutron stars are sci-fiction. We know they are out there,and their
usually seen as a binary system rotating very fast around each other.
Someday we will see this system having three neutron stars(tri-system)
It makes some sense to me with the strong mutual gravity attraction
these two neutron stars should move closer,and closer,and we should be
able to measure this shrinking distance. That means in time they will
collide. This scenario begs three questions. What happens when they slam
together? Will it be a blast of gamma photons? Will they just disappear
because their greater density created a single black hole? Well I say
it would take three neutron stars to create a single black hole. Bert


nightbat

No Bert, you heard it from me first, " Black Comet " remember?
And ha, ha, ha, two is company and three is a crowd. When stars have
plasma sex with more then one close orbiting binary star it's considered
an orgy. They say bad things come in threes, stick with two, or has the
triple hurricanes got you all worked up and too worried? My little
grandson ha, ha, told me his little prayer to say when negative things
come your way. Just say, for particular negative addressed pressing "
subject ", power of the " hurricane " go back to the " hurricane ",
three times, and throw an old shoe at at its direction. The little guy
firmly believes in the power of positive thinking.

ponder on,
the nightbat

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Old September 13th 04, 11:09 PM
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Well so far I have not read in books or heard anyone in this group say
neutron stars are sci-fiction. We know they are out there,and their
usually seen as a binary system rotating very fast around each other.
Someday we will see this system having three neutron stars(tri-system)
It makes some sense to me with the strong mutual gravity attraction
these two neutron stars should move closer,and closer,and we should be
able to measure this shrinking distance. That means in time they will
collide. This scenario begs three questions. What happens when they slam
together? Will it be a blast of gamma photons? Will they just disappear
because their greater density created a single black hole? Well I say
it would take three neutron stars to create a single black hole. Bert


nightbat

No Bert, you heard it from me first, " Black Comet " remember?
And ha, ha, ha, two is company and three is a crowd. When stars have
plasma sex with more then one close orbiting binary star it's considered
an orgy. They say bad things come in threes, stick with two, or has the
triple hurricanes got you all worked up and too worried? My little
grandson ha, ha, told me his little prayer to say when negative things
come your way. Just say, for particular negative addressed pressing "
subject ", power of the " hurricane " go back to the " hurricane ",
three times, and throw an old shoe at at its direction. The little guy
firmly believes in the power of positive thinking.

ponder on,
the nightbat




Bert and nightbat,

If you have ever played with one of those gravity simulation programs,
it becomes clear that three objects in close orbit is a highly
unstable situation. One of two things quickly happens. Either two of
the bodies collide, or one of the bodies is expelled out of orbit.

However, when two of the bodies are close, and the third is far off,
then stability can be maintained.

So yes, three neutron stars in orbit would greatly increase the odds
that two of them will collide and an event horizon will form, but in
the long run the orbits of any two neutron stars will decay and they
will merge. Of course they may just form a quark star!

Double-A
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Old September 14th 04, 01:07 AM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
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Hi nightbat and Double-A Let me come up with a very a stable
rotational system. Two neutron stars revolving around a black hole. Same
three questions However when a neutron star gets to close it is not
torn apart,it is swallowed by the black hole in on gulp.Not even a burp.
The black hole's event horizon would increase in size(not as much as
Hawking would come up with however.) All would go to increase is
gravitational force.That would be the transfer of neutrons into
gravitons. Visa versa and you can create neutrons,and with neutrons you
get hydrogen atoms,and away you go into the final act the creation of"
universes" Bert

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Old September 21st 04, 11:37 AM
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Yes two fast moving(revolving) binary stars can prove that the speed of
light does not pick up or lose speed if the source of light is moving
towards us our away. This was proven about 100 years ago. Photons are
tricky stuff. SR took away most of Newton's thinking. Still his
thinking still works here on Earth,because all Earth's speeds are slow
pokes. Bert

 




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