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Old August 27th 04, 08:29 PM
bob haller
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Default Is the same basic booster used for progress and soyuz?

Obviously one is man rated. Is the basic block the same?
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Old August 27th 04, 09:34 PM
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On 2004-08-27, bob haller wrote:
Obviously one is man rated. Is the basic block the same?


Answer using no long words: yes

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/soyuzfg.htm

"Uprated Soyuz booster designed for high performance Russian government
missions - delivery of Soyuz and Progress spacecraft to the
International Space Station."

They appear to use functionally identical launchers, although it's
possible the manned flights are flown with extra telemetry.

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Old August 28th 04, 02:33 AM
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Andrew Gray wrote in message ...
On 2004-08-27, bob haller wrote:
Obviously one is man rated. Is the basic block the same?


Answer using no long words: yes

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/soyuzfg.htm

"Uprated Soyuz booster designed for high performance Russian government
missions - delivery of Soyuz and Progress spacecraft to the
International Space Station."

They appear to use functionally identical launchers, although it's
possible the manned flights are flown with extra telemetry.


Alan Erskine

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Old August 30th 04, 06:29 PM
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"bob haller" wrote in message
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Obviously one is man rated.


"Man rating" is a NASA specific concept.

Is the basic block the same?


This is a more meaningful question. If there are differences, an even
better question would be to ask why they are different.

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Old August 31st 04, 05:28 PM
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"Jeff Findley" wrote in message news:4uJYc.2049 Is the basic block the same?

This is a more meaningful question. If there are differences, an even
better question would be to ask why they are different.

Jeff


The ex-Soviets always have one Bureau design the lower part of the
launcher, i.e. the launcher minus upper stage.

The Bureau that designs the space craft also designs the last stage to
fit with the payload.

Or at least they apparently did in soviet times.

The stages underneath the last stage were the same no matter the
payload, the last stage was probably using the same engine, but
totally the responsability of those who were also responsible for the
payload.

I still think Progress is develloped by taking the Soyuz work drawings
and replacing the descent module with a fuel sectio n of roughly the
same mass and mass distribution, the orbital module with one carying
supplies, again roghly the same mass and size, and minimal changes to
the service module, too.

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Carsten Nielsen
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