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approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 12:12:12 -1000, Mike wrote:
approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? Google is your friend: Try this: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/50lys.html |
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... approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? This may be what you are after... it would help if you explained "why" you are asking. http://outreach.jach.hawaii.edu/birthstars/ |
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approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? There are a great many stars within forty light-years, but we don't know exactly how many because the faintest ones are very hard to detect at any interstellar distance. For example, in the list of the hundred nearest stars at http://www.chara.gsu.edu/RECONS/TOP100.htm a couple of recent additions, red dwarfs with about a tenth of the Sun's mass and a ten-thousandth or less the luminosity, are as nearby as twelve light-years or so. Even if we assume that we've now found everything within that distance, and that our immediate environs are typical of the 'neighbourhood', based on the above table we could expect there to be some 19*37 or seven hundred star-systems, comprising 33*37 or twelve hundred individual stars, within 40 LY. (37 is about 40/12 cubed.) Here's a list of the 150 nearest star-systems in the Hipparcos catalogue: http://astro.estec.esa.nl/Hipparcos/table361.html. You can also query the Hipparcos catalogue by parallax in order to get lists of stars within a certain distance range, but you'd have to sort them yourself, whether by hand or by loading them into a database. Here's the "multi-parameter search" page: http://astro.estec.esa.nl/hipparcos_scripts/hipMultiSearch.pl. For example when I asked for the entries between 35 and 45 LY (parallax of 72.4 - 93.1 mas) I got a list of 177 star-systems. Narrowing the range down to 39.5 - 40.5 LY (80.5 - 82.5 mas) I still got ten results, the brightest of which being the third-magnitude "proper motion star" Beta Trianguli Australis at 40.1 +/- .3 LY. -- Odysseus |
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Just about any star map will show that there's many within that range.
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All the distances use red shift data and soon are going to prove to be
in complete error anyways, so don't bother with the simplistic red shift nonsense. Tom Randy wrote: On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 12:12:12 -1000, Mike wrote: approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? Google is your friend: Try this: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/50lys.html |
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![]() Roger Hamlett wrote: "Mad Scientist" wrote in message t.cable.rogers.com... All the distances use red shift data and soon are going to prove to be in complete error anyways, so don't bother with the simplistic red shift nonsense. None of the short range measurements use 'red shift data'. Stars this close are measured by simple parallax. According to some web sites, Parallax is only good for about 750 stars. Clearly the measurements used parallax trigonometry are calibrated after 'known' red shift data. Otherwise how else would merely knowing the angle of a stars movement help with distance. Clearly a known distance is used to calibrate Parallax data. I already know that the science of red shift is destined to be proven false anyways and all known measurements of objects virtual or apparent distance from our solar system will have to be adjusted and updated. For example globular star clusters have a minimum of 1 million stars. Current astronomy is oblivious to this. Clearly something is either wrong with the math or something is lacking in our detection methods. Tom Randy wrote: On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 12:12:12 -1000, Mike wrote: approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? Google is your friend: Try this: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/50lys.html Best Wishes |
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![]() "Mad Scientist" wrote in message t.cable.rogers.com... All the distances use red shift data and soon are going to prove to be in complete error anyways, so don't bother with the simplistic red shift nonsense. None of the short range measurements use 'red shift data'. Stars this close are measured by simple parallax. Tom Randy wrote: On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 12:12:12 -1000, Mike wrote: approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? Google is your friend: Try this: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/50lys.html Best Wishes |
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![]() "Mad Scientist" wrote in message t.cable.rogers.com... All the distances use red shift data and soon are going to prove to be in complete error anyways, so don't bother with the simplistic red shift nonsense. Realy. Do tell us your alternative, and please explain how your alternative accounts for the *observed* characteristics of the rotation of galaxies, the measurement of the light curves of Cepheid Variables, and Type 1 Supernovae. Tom Randy wrote: On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 12:12:12 -1000, Mike wrote: approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? Google is your friend: Try this: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/50lys.html |
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![]() "Mad Scientist" wrote in message t.cable.rogers.com... Roger Hamlett wrote: "Mad Scientist" wrote in message t.cable.rogers.com... All the distances use red shift data and soon are going to prove to be in complete error anyways, so don't bother with the simplistic red shift nonsense. None of the short range measurements use 'red shift data'. Stars this close are measured by simple parallax. According to some web sites, Parallax is only good for about 750 stars. And how many stars do you think are within 40 light years? Clearly the measurements used parallax trigonometry are calibrated after 'known' red shift data. BWHAHAHAHQAHAHHAHAHAHHAH! No wonder you won last months VVFWS Award. You clueless nitwit. The measurements for stars distances determined by the parralax method are primarily based on simple trigonometry, which you are incapable of understanding. For those watching, I realise Mad "Scientist" isn't going to be capable of learning. This is aimed primarily at those who might stumble across his postings and think he has a point other than the one at the top of his head. Otherwise how else would merely knowing the angle of a stars movement help with distance. Clearly a known distance is used to calibrate Parallax data. I already know that the science of red shift is destined to be proven false anyways and all known measurements of objects virtual or apparent distance from our solar system will have to be adjusted and updated. For example globular star clusters have a minimum of 1 million stars. Current astronomy is oblivious to this. Not at all, fool. Clearly something is either wrong with the math or something is lacking in our detection methods. No something is wrong with your understanding of basic trigonometry. Tom Randy wrote: On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 12:12:12 -1000, Mike wrote: approximately 40 light years away? And ftm, is there a ranking of all stars by their distance~? Google is your friend: Try this: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/50lys.html Best Wishes |
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