Spirit's Landing Site Awash in Green?

ESA's Mars Express orbiter captured an image of Spirit's landing site
about a week ago. The image shows the exact location of Spirit is awash
in a shade of green. Don't believe me? Look at the image for yourself.
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=34531

The same area was acquired by Odyssey in this false color image:
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V03415003_C321.html

Don Davis is an independent space artist / researcher who has processed
color images for Malin in the past. Here is his processing of the Gusev
landing site into "true color" from Odyssey data
http://www.donaldedavis.com/BIGPUB/DD_V03415003.jpg

What are your comments on this?

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James Burk
MarsNews.com

ESA's Mars Express orbiter captured an image of Spirit's landing site
about a week ago. The image shows the exact location of Spirit is awash
in a shade of green. Don't believe me? Look at the image for yourself.
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=34531

Remember the Mars Express color camera is not true color. It is a four
color camera with wavelengths peaked at 440, 530, 750, and 970. These
are blue, green, and two near-IR.

The human eye has peaks at 450, 540, and 580 for blue, green, and red
respectively. Note that green and red are very close together.

When they take full spectrum images with Spirit, they use 11 different
filters centered at 430, 480, 530, 600, 670, 750, 800, 860, 900, 930,
and 980 nm. They have taken a few pictures with the whole spectrum and
they are probably the best representation of the color of Gusev
crater.

James Burk wrote:

ESA's Mars Express orbiter captured an image of Spirit's landing site
about a week ago. The image shows the exact location of Spirit is awash
in a shade of green. Don't believe me? Look at the image for yourself.
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=34531

This has already been discussed here to some extent. See the recent
"Gusev crater looks mouldy!" thread. Personally, I think the ME colors
are way off. I suspect that they are not intended to be approximate
true color. The dark regions are darker soils, which seems to be the
reason for the low albedo areas at all scales, including the dark
regions we see in the telescope. At the scope they don't look green...

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ESA's Mars Express orbiter captured an image of Spirit's landing site
about a week ago. The image shows the exact location of Spirit is awash
in a shade of green. Don't believe me? Look at the image for yourself.
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=34531

On another group someone posted a color balanced version of this
picture to make it look more realistic...
http://www.donaldedavis.com/2004%20new/ESAGUSEV.jpg

I think what looks green in the ESA image are actually the dust devil
tracks that have been talked about so much. They should be more gray
then green.

Peterson, David wrote:
I think what looks green in the ESA image are actually the dust devil
tracks that have been talked about so much. They should be more gray
then green.

Yes. The ME camera uses lower resolution for the color channels. So
the colorful areas tend to blend together, erasing most the individual
tracks that can be seen even in the 25m/pixel MOC image mosaic.


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Greg Crinklaw
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I think the Don Davis image is probably the closest. The darker areas on Mars
tend to be various forms of a bluish-grey color. I think the ESA image color
rendition is way off, as much of the darker area shown as green is really made
up of dust-devil tracks. Clear skies to you.
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There's some VERY interesting replies to questions about the green
colors and more from an interview with ESA

"Certainly like the green in the Gusev crater picture or by looking
at the development of darker spots toward the South Pole which are tied
to seasonal variations, it certainly gives rise to the speculation that
there
could be algae." * Michael McKay, European Space Agency

Full article
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news....tegory=Science

Too bad the beagle rover got lost, otherwise we'd be able to better
compare differences between what NASA shows us and what ESA shows us. I
can't wait for the ESA orbiter to become fully operational.

James Burk wrote:

ESA's Mars Express orbiter captured an image of Spirit's landing site
about a week ago. The image shows the exact location of Spirit is awash
in a shade of green. Don't believe me? Look at the image for yourself.
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=34531

The same area was acquired by Odyssey in this false color image:
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V03415003_C321.html

Don Davis is an independent space artist / researcher who has processed
color images for Malin in the past. Here is his processing of the Gusev
landing site into "true color" from Odyssey data
http://www.donaldedavis.com/BIGPUB/DD_V03415003.jpg

What are your comments on this?

--
James Burk
MarsNews.com

That's a conspiracy nutter "journalist" interviewing someone who clearly
is not a scientist. The result is pure silliness and ESA should be red
in the face with embarrassment.


--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

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Hi Greg

I think you had better be a bit careful with your closed minded and arrogant
attitude! The evidence is growing that there is indeed at the very least
plant life currently existing on Mars.

Why are you so afraid to even consider it?

In the U.K William Hills the betting shop has just lowered the odds of the
British Priminister announcing the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial
life by the end of 2004 from 500/1 to 100/1

Martin

"Greg Crinklaw" wrote in message
...
That's a conspiracy nutter "journalist" interviewing someone who clearly
is not a scientist. The result is pure silliness and ESA should be red
in the face with embarrassment.


--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

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http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html

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Martin Noakes wrote:
[...]
I think you had better be a bit careful with your closed minded and arrogant
attitude!

Please explain exactly why one should not close one's mind to trash?

The evidence is growing that there is indeed at the very least
plant life currently existing on Mars.

Really? And exactly where is that evidence? (Please note that I am
referring to "evidence", not to misrepresentations thereof.)

Why are you so afraid to even consider it?

Straw man alert! You are assuming fear where none has been exhibited.


In the U.K William Hills the betting shop has just lowered the odds of the
British Priminister announcing the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial
life by the end of 2004 from 500/1 to 100/1

So what? All that demonstrates is (a) that you can't spell Prime
Minister and (b) that you don't understand how betting shops set the
odds that they offer. (Clue: more people are betting on such an
announcement so William Hill is covering its back.)


Best,
Stephen

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