Saturnian mystery

Here are clumps as viewed by Cassini of bright patches or clumps in the
outer F ring that defy
explanation.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05382

Mickelodean wrote:

Here are clumps as viewed by Cassini of bright patches or clumps in the
outer F ring that defy
explanation.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05382

"Defy explanation" is rather an overstatement. "Not understood in
detail" would be more accurate.

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"Not understood in detail" is hardly an explanation...
Orion

"Greg Crinklaw" wrote in message
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Mickelodean wrote:

Here are clumps as viewed by Cassini of bright patches or clumps in the
outer F ring that defy
explanation.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05382

"Defy explanation" is rather an overstatement. "Not understood in
detail" would be more accurate.

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

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http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html

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"Greg Crinklaw" wrote in message
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Mickelodean wrote:

Here are clumps as viewed by Cassini of bright patches or clumps in the
outer F ring that defy
explanation.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05382

"Defy explanation" is rather an overstatement. "Not understood in
detail" would be more accurate.


Uh uh!. Not understood AT ALL. you imply there is a measure of explanation
when in fact
there is no explanation. So, it defies explanation until it is explained
rather than be only
left open to conjecture and theory. Go back to school..fool!

defy v. (-ies, -ied) 1 resist openly; refuse to obey. 2 (of a thing) =
present insuperable obstacles to (defies solution). 3 (foll. by to + =
infin.) challenge (a person) to do or prove something. [Latin fides =
faith]


The ring clumps are NOT resisting or refusing to obey. Defy is the wrong =
term.

-Florian

Mickelodean wrote:

Here are clumps as viewed by Cassini of bright patches or clumps in the
outer F ring that defy
explanation.

Actually, I wouldn't say that they defy explanation, as there have been
several theories proposed to account for them. One involves perturbations by
one of the two shepherding satellites Pandora and Prometheus, which is
probably the most promising. Another is the existance of a smaller but as of
yet undiscovered moon. Probably, when Cassini gets closer and studies the
F-ring in more detail, we will get more information to determine what is going
on. Clear skies to you.
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David W. Knisely
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Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/

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"Mickelodean" wrote in message
news:wYr4c.80221$Ff2.31829@clgrps12...
Here are clumps as viewed by Cassini of bright patches or clumps in the
outer F ring that defy
explanation.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05382



So. What do you guess they are?

What are some explanations that would be defied? Maybe just random captured
material that hasn't worked it's way to blend in with the more homogenous
areas. That seems pretty straightforward.

"David Knisely" wrote in message
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Mickelodean wrote:

Here are clumps as viewed by Cassini of bright patches or clumps in the
outer F ring that defy
explanation.

Actually, I wouldn't say that they defy explanation, as there have been
several theories proposed to account for them. One involves perturbations
by
one of the two shepherding satellites Pandora and Prometheus, which is
probably the most promising. Another is the existance of a smaller but as
of
yet undiscovered moon. Probably, when Cassini gets closer and studies the
F-ring in more detail, we will get more information to determine what is
going
on. Clear skies to you.


grasping at straws at best

So. What do you guess they are?

What are some explanations that would be defied? Maybe just random
captured
material that hasn't worked it's way to blend in with the more homogenous
areas. That seems pretty straightforward.


What is the relative orbital velocity of the patches to the homogeneous
material? The same?
Can you determine if the patches move at the same rate as the medium? If
not, why?
Is Cassini going to go into orbit in the vacinity of the rings to study
them? They are the most provocative
feature of that planet.

So why don't you tell us who you really are? Oh, I bet you think you
are oh, so funny! So witty! Wow, what a guy! You can sucker poor good
natured people like David Knisely into wasting their time answering your
trolls. Wow, what an achievement. What an amazing person you are. You
must bo sooo proud of yourself! Have you shown this thread to your
mommy yet?

So why not tell us who you really are? Why not? Too chicken ****?
Then we can all marvel together at how much smarter you are than the
rest us poor saps trying to share a little knowledge. Yeah, man, we
really deserve anything you can throw at us for that. How dare we!

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

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