Explained: The Supertide That Swallowed a French Abbey

Explained: The Supertide That Swallowed a French Abbey
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-french-abbey/

A stunning photo went viral over the weekend, revealing a supertide
that turned an 11th-century French abbey that is usually surrounded
by sheep into an island swallowed by the sea. The image, from AP, is
shown here.

Similar photos from other news agencies also ran rampant on the Web.
Thousands of people arrived on the coast of Normandy to watch the
spectacular 14-meter-high surge of water envelop Mont Saint-Michel,
the enclave around the abbey—usually accessible only by a causeway,
which was overtopped by the tide.

The articles that accompanied such photos failed to explain why this
supertide happened, or made vague references to the sun, or the moon,
or the alignment of the sun and moon, or the eclipse that occurred
the same day—and without attribution to any expert or scientific
institution. Many also referred to the March 20-21 event as the “tide
of the century,” even though it arises every 18 years. The previous
occurrence was in March 1997, and the next one will be in March
2033.

So what caused the supertide? A strong clue is the repeat of “March”
in the dates. Tides are driven by the moon’s gravitational pull. The
sun’s gravity has an effect, too, although much smaller. When the sun
and moon are aligned with Earth, their combined pull is greatest,
creating what are called spring tides. They occur twice every month,
but are often greatest in March and September, during the spring and
autumn equinoxes.*

This year the moon and sun aligned very exactly, causing Saturday’s
eclipse. “If we see a solar eclipse there will be a spring tide,” Hal
Needham, a climatologist at Louisiana State University, told me. “But
if we see a spring tide it doesn't mean we will see a solar
eclipse.”

But what explains the recurrence of March for the highest of tides?*
And why the 18-year cycle? This gets trickier. The best explanation,
which Needham emailed me, comes from the U.K. Met Office, Britain’s
official meteorological agency. Experts at the Met wrote in a blog
that some spring tides are higher than others “because tidal forces
are strengthened if the moon is closest to earth in its elliptical
orbit. Tide forces are also enhanced when the sun and the moon are
directly over the equator. For the sun this happens on or around 21
March or September. The moon’s orbit also takes it above and below
the equator over a period of 27.2 days. Just as with the sun, the
tide-generating forces are at their greatest when the moon is
directly overhead at the equator.”

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:26:49 PM UTC, Sam Wormley wrote:

Tide forces are also enhanced when the sun and the moon are
directly over the equator. For the sun this happens on or around 21
March or September.

The tides are the most sensitive to planetary dynamics and the position of the moon so there was always an impetus to research the ins and outs of daily,monthly and annual components which surface as variations in tidal heights. The first empirical 'theory of gravity' was based on the tides in 1666 as a letter from John Wallis to Robert Boyle and roughly a quarter of as century before that interesting approach was destroyed overreaching with experimental analogies via Newton -

http://rstl.royalsocietypublishing.o....full.pdf+html


Daily and annual tidal variations correlate with separate surface rotations to the central Sun and ,of course, the position of the moon but whereas Wallis could readily admit that they had no clear explanation for why the total length of the natural noon cycle varies as the Sun passes the observer's meridian each day, common sense and modern imaging makes the explanation so easy for contemporary observers.

Get over this childish notion of the Sun 'over the Equator' at the Equinox, the Sun is an enormous star and doesn't move for the purpose of explaining the trajectory of the Earth from Equinox to Solstice - a splash of cold water using Sun/Earth comparisons should draw attention to the dual surface rotations of the Earth to our central star and how these rotations correlate with the seasons, the tides and variations in the natural noon cycle -

http://tomroelandts.com/sites/tomroe...earth-moon.png


Society has a horrible record in treating astronomical innovators where untenable concepts break down and new and more productive viewpoints take their place. How long interested individuals can keep out the insight that to explain the seasons or the annual component of the tides it requires a separate surface rotation to the central Sun in addition to daily rotation. I always thought that the magnificent time lapse footage showing dual rotations ( the circle of illumination is always out of sight) about 45 seconds into the Hubble imaging would generate the necessary astonishment needed to break down the old perspectives and create new ones -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612gSZsplpE

A mixture of old and new burns away the dross and gives contemporaries a new way to look at tides.

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:26:49 PM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:
Explained: The Supertide That Swallowed a French Abbey
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-french-abbey/

Oh, I get it... the warmingistas want the proles, the sheeple and the progs to assume that this event was caused by global warming.

Never mind that the builders of the commune *wanted* a defensible island location.

wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:26:49 PM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:
Explained: The Supertide That Swallowed a French Abbey
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-french-abbey/

Oh, I get it... the warmingistas want the proles, the sheeple and the
progs to assume that this event was caused by global warming.

Never mind that the builders of the commune *wanted* a defensible island location.

London didn't want to be flooded though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10125010.html

https://www.gov.uk/the-thames-barrier

in the 1980s there were 4 closures
In the 1990s there were 35 closures
In the 2000s there were 75 closures
In the 2010s there were 65 closures (as of March 2014)

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 10:03:54 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:26:49 PM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:
Explained: The Supertide That Swallowed a French Abbey
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-french-abbey/

Oh, I get it... the warmingistas want the proles, the sheeple and the
progs to assume that this event was caused by global warming.

Never mind that the builders of the commune *wanted* a defensible island location.

London didn't want to be flooded though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10125010.html

https://www.gov.uk/the-thames-barrier

in the 1980s there were 4 closures
In the 1990s there were 35 closures
In the 2000s there were 75 closures
In the 2010s there were 65 closures (as of March 2014)

In general, and especially lately, closures have had more to do with water coming down the Thames than with tides moving up the Thames.

No closures in 2011 or 2012 ?

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:26:49 PM UTC, Sam Wormley wrote:

The articles that accompanied such photos failed to explain why this
supertide happened, or made vague references to the sun, or the moon,
or the alignment of the sun and moon, or the eclipse that occurred
the same day--and without attribution to any expert or scientific
institution. Many also referred to the March 20-21 event as the "tide
of the century," even though it arises every 18 years. The previous
occurrence was in March 1997, and the next one will be in March
2033.


I am watching SAA slouching towards mediocrity as it would rather entertain dullness than actually work with imaging,graphics and texts.

People were asked to take a step back and look at the eclipse last week from the point of view of the near side of the moon and what the Earth looks like as it passes the Earth's orbital plane between the Earth and the Sun with special attention given to the fully illuminated face of the Earth at that moment.

With the next passage of the moon in front of the Earth's fully illuminated face ,the North pole of the Earth will have moved close to 30 degrees from March 20th across the illuminated face insofar as the Earth's orbital position will have changed thereby carrying the polar point around to that position running parallel with the Earth's orbital plane.

These things are real ,they are cyclical and they should energize researchers to look once more at tides,climate, the seasons, the Equation of Time and multiple other issues arising from the planet's dual surface rotation to our parent star.

oriel36 wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:26:49 PM UTC, Sam Wormley wrote:

The articles that accompanied such photos failed to explain why this
supertide happened, or made vague references to the sun, or the moon,
or the alignment of the sun and moon, or the eclipse that occurred
the same day--and without attribution to any expert or scientific
institution. Many also referred to the March 20-21 event as the "tide
of the century," even though it arises every 18 years. The previous
occurrence was in March 1997, and the next one will be in March
2033.


I am watching SAA slouching towards mediocrity as it would rather
entertain dullness than actually work with imaging,graphics and texts.

People were asked to take a step back and look at the eclipse last week
from the point of view of the near side of the moon and what the Earth
looks like as it passes the Earth's orbital plane between the Earth and
the Sun with special attention given to the fully illuminated face of the
Earth at that moment.

With the next passage of the moon in front of the Earth's fully
illuminated face ,the North pole of the Earth will have moved close to 30
degrees from March 20th across the illuminated face insofar as the
Earth's orbital position will have changed thereby carrying the polar
point around to that position running parallel with the Earth's orbital plane.

These things are real ,they are cyclical and they should energize
researchers to look once more at tides,climate, the seasons, the Equation
of Time and multiple other issues arising from the planet's dual surface
rotation to our parent star.

No need to send a camera to the Moon. Here are all the full Earths (new
Moons)as seen from Mare Frigoris looking south.

http://youtu.be/yvhqK7NVVrU

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:55:21 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:26:49 PM UTC, Sam Wormley wrote:

The articles that accompanied such photos failed to explain why this
supertide happened, or made vague references to the sun, or the moon,
or the alignment of the sun and moon, or the eclipse that occurred
the same day--and without attribution to any expert or scientific
institution. Many also referred to the March 20-21 event as the "tide
of the century," even though it arises every 18 years. The previous
occurrence was in March 1997, and the next one will be in March
2033.


I am watching SAA slouching towards mediocrity as it would rather
entertain dullness than actually work with imaging,graphics and texts.

People were asked to take a step back and look at the eclipse last week
from the point of view of the near side of the moon and what the Earth
looks like as it passes the Earth's orbital plane between the Earth and
the Sun with special attention given to the fully illuminated face of the
Earth at that moment.

With the next passage of the moon in front of the Earth's fully
illuminated face ,the North pole of the Earth will have moved close to 30
degrees from March 20th across the illuminated face insofar as the
Earth's orbital position will have changed thereby carrying the polar
point around to that position running parallel with the Earth's orbital plane.

These things are real ,they are cyclical and they should energize
researchers to look once more at tides,climate, the seasons, the Equation
of Time and multiple other issues arising from the planet's dual surface
rotation to our parent star.

No need to send a camera to the Moon. Here are all the full Earths (new
Moons)as seen from Mare Frigoris looking south.

http://youtu.be/yvhqK7NVVrU

Considering the utter damage and chaos you empiricists have created there is a supreme need to send an imaging device to the near side of the moon in order to look back at the Earth.

You can't even interpret the dual surface rotations of the distant Uranus to the central Sun from its fully illuminated face as seen from Earth even though it is possible to see it directly with the aid of those Equatorial rings and its remarkable inclination - about 46 seconds into the time lapse footage the dual surface rotations to the central Sun appear distinctly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612gSZsplpE

The tides respond to these separate rotations as one is constant (diurnal) and the other varies throughout the Earth's orbit.

I don't question that you haven't the slightest interest in the new approach but it cannot have escaped those who have the intelligence,the talent and the curiosity to actually look at what Uranus demonstrates so easily.

oriel36 wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:55:21 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:26:49 PM UTC, Sam Wormley wrote:

The articles that accompanied such photos failed to explain why this
supertide happened, or made vague references to the sun, or the moon,
or the alignment of the sun and moon, or the eclipse that occurred
the same day--and without attribution to any expert or scientific
institution. Many also referred to the March 20-21 event as the "tide
of the century," even though it arises every 18 years. The previous
occurrence was in March 1997, and the next one will be in March
2033.


I am watching SAA slouching towards mediocrity as it would rather
entertain dullness than actually work with imaging,graphics and texts.

People were asked to take a step back and look at the eclipse last week
from the point of view of the near side of the moon and what the Earth
looks like as it passes the Earth's orbital plane between the Earth and
the Sun with special attention given to the fully illuminated face of the
Earth at that moment.

With the next passage of the moon in front of the Earth's fully
illuminated face ,the North pole of the Earth will have moved close to 30
degrees from March 20th across the illuminated face insofar as the
Earth's orbital position will have changed thereby carrying the polar
point around to that position running parallel with the Earth's orbital plane.

These things are real ,they are cyclical and they should energize
researchers to look once more at tides,climate, the seasons, the Equation
of Time and multiple other issues arising from the planet's dual surface
rotation to our parent star.

No need to send a camera to the Moon. Here are all the full Earths (new
Moons)as seen from Mare Frigoris looking south.

http://youtu.be/yvhqK7NVVrU

Considering the utter damage and chaos you empiricists have created there
is a supreme need to send an imaging device to the near side of the moon
in order to look back at the Earth.

You can't even interpret the dual surface rotations of the distant Uranus
to the central Sun from its fully illuminated face as seen from Earth
even though it is possible to see it directly with the aid of those
Equatorial rings and its remarkable inclination - about 46 seconds into
the time lapse footage the dual surface rotations to the central Sun appear distinctly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?va2gSZsplpE

The tides respond to these separate rotations as one is constant
(diurnal) and the other varies throughout the Earth's orbit.

I don't question that you haven't the slightest interest in the new
approach but it cannot have escaped those who have the intelligence,the
talent and the curiosity to actually look at what Uranus demonstrates so easily.

You are an ungrateful wretch!
I spent time creating a video which shows exactly what you want and I don't
think you even looked at it.
You're not going to get a space mission to do this but if you did you would
see exactly what this video shows. The first half with no magnification and
the second is what you would see through binoculars at every full Earth
this year including the eclipse last week.

On 28/03/2015 14:41, wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 10:03:54 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:26:49 PM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:
Explained: The Supertide That Swallowed a French Abbey
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-french-abbey/

Oh, I get it... the warmingistas want the proles, the sheeple and the
progs to assume that this event was caused by global warming.

Never mind that the builders of the commune *wanted* a defensible island location.

London didn't want to be flooded though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10125010.html

https://www.gov.uk/the-thames-barrier

in the 1980s there were 4 closures
In the 1990s there were 35 closures
In the 2000s there were 75 closures
In the 2010s there were 65 closures (as of March 2014)

In general, and especially lately, closures have had more to do with water coming down the Thames than with tides moving up the Thames.

No closures in 2011 or 2012 ?

No closures in 2011, 3 in 2012

Over the decade prior to 2014, closures were over twice as likely to be
for tidal purposes than high river levels (according to the wiki).