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Old May 3rd 14, 09:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"The ancients (since I am forever beginning with the ancients) were familiar with six of what we consider planets today: Mercury, Venus, the Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

To be sure, those ancients did not consider the Earth to be a planet, since it was clearly distinct from those lights that moved amongst the constant stars. They also considered the Moon and the Sun to be planets, since they did wander amongst the stars, although it must have taken some time to realize the Sun did so, on account of its glare." Brian Tung

This is usual empirical rubbish,the planets were distinct from the moon and the Sun by virtue that the 'wandering' motion refers strictly to apparent retrograde motion whereas the Sun and moon display direct motion -

"Yet [these orbital motions] differ in many ways [from the daily
rotation or first motion]. In the first place, they do not swing
around the same poles as the first motion, but run obliquely through
the zodiac. Secondly, these bodies are not seen moving uniformly in
their orbits, since the sun and moon are observed to be sometimes
slow, at other times faster in their course. Moreover, we see the
other five planets also retrograde at times, and stationary at either
end [of the regression]. And whereas the sun always advances along its
own direct path, they wander in various ways, straying sometimes to
the south and sometimes to the north; that is why they are called
"planets" [wanderers]." Copernicus

Empiricists following Newton have severe difficulties with historical and technical details which is why they make a train wreck on issues which distinguish planets and the perspective changes that make them that way.
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Old May 4th 14, 06:37 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Not that there was much to look at in the case of Uranus. Jupiter has its colorful belts and the Great Red Spot. The surface of Saturn is blander than that of Jupiter, but it has, in compensation, its brilliant set of rings. Uranus, further from the Sun and generating less internal heat than either of them, exhibits essentially no turbulence in its atmosphere, and so its surface is remarkably plain." Brian Tung

Not so and quite the opposite, Uranus displays incredible storms on its surface at the Equinox -

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/arc...ranus/1999/11/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612gSZsplpE

I find it incredible that readers are prepared to ignore the orbital surface rotation or simply cannot adapt their reasoning to incorporate the dynamic even when it is in front of them.The Earth has the same feature of dual surface rotations with the polar day/night cycle at the polar coordinates being the most obvious effect of the orbital surface rotation while the seasons are a result when that orbital surface rotation combines with daily rotation at lower latitudes.

 




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