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Old January 5th 14, 05:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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It is important to recognize the second surface rotation which combines with daily rotation at lower latitudes to cause the seasons.Unlike the era of Copernicus when few understood the actual arguments for the Earth's daily and orbital dynamics using specific observations,in this era this is compensated by a small group who are opposed to the actual discoveries of Copernicus in refusing to accept the partitioning of the resolution for apparent retrogrades as seen from a moving Earth.

In this nightmare world where the worst convictions have the attention of the wider population there is always this explanation which relieves the stress on axial inclination and daily rotation as the sole motion to account for the seasons.

The Earth is 93 million miles from the Sun whereas Uranus is 1800 million miles so that when we look out at Uranus we may as well be looking at it from the central Sun so distant is that planet. What we see is a planet that appears to have the very motion described as axial precession as it completes its 8 decade orbit of the Sun -

http://londonastronomer.files.wordpr..._2001-2007.jpg

The Earth would have the exact same motion if it were seen from the Sun but unfortunately that turning of the polar coordinates to the central Sun is presently taken up by the notion axial precession -

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...precession.svg

The North/South poles are like a glimpse behind the curtain for the fact that all locations on Earth turn once to the Sun aside from and in addition to the daily rotational cycle. Any enterprising individual who can use their imagination to consider what the Earth looks like as viewed from the Sun would see this view at the March Equinox -

http://victoriastaffordapsychicinves...ng?w=600&h=465

As the Earth moves in the direction of its orbital motion it turns to the central Sun hence the polar coordinates turn in a circle and parallel to the ecliptic Equator. The old tilt towards and away from the Sun is from a different era as it blocks out the use of inclination to define planetary climate within a spectrum.
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Old January 5th 14, 09:46 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:04:53 AM UTC-8, oriel36 wrote:

The Earth is 93 million miles from the Sun whereas Uranus is 1800 million miles so that when we look out at Uranus we may as well be looking at it from the central Sun...


So, while you are looking at Uranus from the central Sun, please note that you will see no planetary retrograde motion at all...
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Old January 6th 14, 09:03 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:46:47 PM UTC, palsing wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:04:53 AM UTC-8, oriel36 wrote:



The Earth is 93 million miles from the Sun whereas Uranus is 1800 million miles so that when we look out at Uranus we may as well be looking at it from the central Sun...




So, while you are looking at Uranus from the central Sun, please note that you will see no planetary retrograde motion at all...



The thread has to do with the second surface rotation which is clearly visible in the sequence of images and applied to the Earth as a matter of course -

http://londonastronomer.files.wordpr..._2001-2007.jpg

http://victoriastaffordapsychicinves...ng?w=600&h=465

The notion of axial precession is gone as the observer is drawn to the motion of the Earth along the ecliptic path and the fact that the polar coordinates is a glimpse behind the curtain to the orbital surface rotation and minus daily rotation which is an entirely separate motion -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQwYrfmvoQ

You are calling attention to apparent planetary retrograde motions which actually define what a planet is from all other celestial objects including the Sun and moon. The two resolutions for apparent retrogrades rely solely on observations made from a moving Earth and they involved separate solutions for the inner and outer planets.This is an entirely separate issue.



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Old January 6th 14, 03:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:46:47 PM UTC, palsing wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:04:53 AM UTC-8, oriel36 wrote:



The Earth is 93 million miles from the Sun whereas Uranus is 1800
million miles so that when we look out at Uranus we may as well be
looking at it from the central Sun...




So, while you are looking at Uranus from the central Sun, please note that
you will see no planetary retrograde motion at all...



The thread has to do with the second surface rotation which is clearly
visible in the sequence of images and applied to the Earth as a matter of
course

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So why are you babbling about Uranus?



 




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