This 'leap second' nuisance

It does not matter whether the determination is made with an antique
pendulum clock or VLBI,the conclusion is false -

"... our clocks kept so good a correspondence with the Heavens that I
doubt it not but they would prove the revolutions of the Earth to be
isochronical... " John Flamsteed

This is not about proving Flamsteed wrong,it is the approaching Feb
29th as both 24 hours of rotation and a day/night cycle which accounts
for 1461 rotations in 1461 days which equates 4 years with 4 orbital
circuits of the Earth around the Sun.

Misguided people who act on a false assumption of a 'leap second' are
simply burying people deeper in right ascension thinking and this is a
tragedy that can be prevented by people who care enough to hold the
fact that one 24 hour day keeps in tandem with daylight turning to
darkness and all those things people hold dear.

On Jan 13, 8:03*am, diarrhoea o'verbal wrote:
1461

Using more words than necessary does not make it real. It obviously
confuses you. Otherwise you wouldn't keep repeating yourself.

Do us all a favour: Seek professional advice for your severe mental
illness. Or learn the art of précis. Both option will, almost
certainly, amount to the same thing.

Here is what a true Englishman wrote in expressing the outlines of a
system which keeps the 24 hour day in sync with the rotation of the
Earth using an equatorial speed of 1037.5 miles per hour and a full
24901 mile circumference in 24 hours -

"The application of a Timekeeper to this discovery is founded upon the
following principles: the earth's surface is divided into 360 equal
parts (by imaginary lines drawn from North to South) which are called
Degrees of Longitude; and its daily revolution Eastward round its own
axis is performed in 24 hours; consequently in that period, each of
those imaginary lines or degrees, becomes successively opposite to the
Sun (which makes the noon or precise middle of the day at each of
those degrees and it must follow, that from the time any one of
those lines passes the Sun, till the next passes, must be just four
minutes, for 24 hours being divided by 360 will give that quantity; so
that for every degree of Longitude we sail Westward, it will be noon
with us four minutes the later, and for every degree Eastward four
minutes the sooner, and so on in proportion for any greater or less
quantity." John Harrison

The issue was settled centuries ago when people with a sense of fair
play understood what was achieved over and above the objections of the
same numskulls who now believe in 1465 rotations in 1461 days -

"I cannot help thinking but I am extremely ill used by gentlemen who I
might have expected different treatment from... I hope I am the first,
and for my country's sake, shall be the last that suffers from pinning
my faith on an English Act of Parliament." John Harrison

The taste left by those guys who received a dictate from Newton that
longitude was not to be found by watches still acts today in the same
dismal way to undermine not only the achievements of a nation but the
productive instincts in all humanity -

"I have told the world oftener that once, that longitude is not to be
found by watchmakers" Newton

And now I tell you all that longitude and any given position on the
planet was determined using watches and created by a really inventive
and innovative watchmaker using the principles which he outlined
within context of my astronomical heritage which stretches back to
antiquity as opposed to a stupid mistake which introduced the idea of
1465 rotations in 1461 days.

How much is known of John Harrison and his achievement today and how
little of his detractors only their viciousness and contempt for
anything good in man or astronomy.The issue next week is important to
everyone here as burying the world deeper in right ascension thinking
shuts out the huge modifications to effects such as the seasons,the
natural noon cycle,evolutionary geology or anything where the Earth's
daily and orbital motions are involved.It is not a personal dispute,it
is the heritage which belongs to all humanity and they deserve it back
from a bunch of recreational mathematicians who never cared about
astronomy in the first place only to exploit it.

On Jan 13, 12:03*am, oriel36 wrote:

The daily and orbital motions combine to generate natural inequalities
in the natural noon cycle and this reference alone is enough to
obliterate a conclusion that stellar circumpolar motion is a means to
isolate daily rotation as an independent motion

It is true that daily (24 hour period) rotation cannot be isolated as
an indpendent motion.

This is why we instead use stellar circumpolar motion to isolate, as
an independent motion, rotation with a 23 hour, 56 minute, and 4
second period as an independent motion - and treat "daily rotation" or
the natural noon cycle as a derived motion from the combination of
sidereal rotation and orbital motion.

I do not really understand why you have so great a dislike for this
that you cannot see the plain and obvious sense of modern astronomy.

John Savard

On Jan 13, 2:21*am, oriel36 wrote:
The issue next week is important to
everyone here as burying the world deeper in right ascension thinking
shuts out the huge modifications to effects such as the seasons,the
natural noon cycle,evolutionary geology or anything where the Earth's
daily and orbital motions are involved.It is not a personal dispute,it
is the heritage which belongs to all humanity and they deserve it back
from a bunch of recreational mathematicians who never cared about
astronomy in the first place only to exploit it.

If you reject mathematics, then you will never be able to explain your
"modifications" to the understanding of the Earth's motions in
sufficient detail that anyone will be able to make use of them for any
benefit.

John Savard