Commentary on spacial awareness

It happens that the wider population has become so accustomed to the
belief that some special mathematical ability is required to
understand the celestial arena ,terrestrial effects arising from
planetary dynamics or some other area of science that they do not
question it,almost that there are super humans who see things more
clearly which others cannot see and are therefore set apart by their
followers.It is a dismal sight to see ideologies of the celestial
arena promoted as being beyond the reasoning capabilities of readers
which is highly suggestive of intellectual superiority and while many
would be quite happy to leave the promotion of astronomy in the hands
of those who least support the methods and insights of this most
ancient discipline,there would be others who would suffer from the
inability to use their natural talent for spacial awareness to move
things forward and provide better arrangements of causes and effects.

An astronomer engaged in interpretative astronomy is not super human
but probably more human as the depth of understanding involves acute
sensibilities between the individual and Universal,the astronomer does
not try to speak for the Universe but rather draws on personal
experience to put causes and effects in context and if huge technical
gaps appear then either leave it until some clue emerges or draw on a
bit of speculation from what would be a proper use of experimental
analogies.For instance,no experiment could reproduce the scale of the
rotating viscous interior of the Earth so turning to other celestial
rotating objects with exposed viscous compositions and then work the
clues back into the Earth or the effects on the surface crust and
reject assumptions which defy physical existence hence the replacement
of 'convection cells' which a rotational driven differential rotation
or what amounts to the same thing - an uneven rotational gradient
between equator and poles.

This is not a request to climb down from a lofty intellectual perch
but that sometimes overreaching on issues such as the behavior of
terrestrial objects and celestial objects in a combined view is not
the way to go and to nobody's benefit.The use of analogies can still
go on however it is the development of the interpretative faculties
which are most needed today ,not only to shred the excesses of
wayward conceptual agendas but to make astronomy a richer experience
and again,this is what being more human means .

"oriel36" wrote in message
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| It happens that the wider population has become so accustomed to the
| belief

Please help us. Show us krazy kelleher's kinky kalendar instead of
****ing whining.

On Sep 7, 10:12*am, "Androcles" .
2011 wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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| It happens that the wider population has become so accustomed to the
| belief

Please help us. Show us krazy kelleher's kinky kalendar instead of
****ing whining.

Case in point,the ancients knew that they could not fix the annual
cycle of the seasons to 365 days nor 366 days as they discovered that
if they assumed the shortest day of the year happened after every 365
times they slept and woke,they would find the middle of winter coming
later over the course of a lifetime,if they chose 366 days then much
earlier so they instituted a system where they could rely on a close
correspondence between the day and the annual cycle,which the Canopus
decree is old there is no reason to believe that astronomers had known
this for thousands of years before this -

"..therefore it shall be, that the year of 360 days and the 5 days
added to their end, so one day as feast of Benevolent Gods [the
pharaoh and family] be from
this day after every 4 years added to the 5 epagomenae before the New
Year, whereby all men shall learn, that what was a little defective in
the order as regards the seasons and the year, as also the opinions
which are contained in the rules of the learned on the heavenly
orbits, are now corrected and improved." Canopus decree

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/...pus_decree.htm

Thew reader doesn't require any special abilities other than to know
what their own bodies tell them,if they can extract the rotation of
the Earth from a daily temperature index they can then assume that
there are 1461 rotations in 1461 days whereas those who wish to
promote stellar circumpolar motion linked to daily rotation as you do
are forced to believe an imbalance between rotations and days.If you
dispute your 1465 rotations in 4 years you have plenty of individuals
here willing to remind you just where you stand.

Astronomy is not an experimental empirical cistern but a fountain for
those who allow its geometric language in,there are no sour and dour
individuals who will ever comprehend its methods and insights yet it
allows for all the mistakes and misjudgments which accompany all
individuals as they get older even those as great as the late 17th
century mutations which tried to model the motions of the Earth using
timekeeping averages.Again,the goodness of humans is that they feel as
well as they know and if something makes a person feel
uncomfortable ,at least in matters of some technical explanation,then
more often than not there is a better explanation.So go ahead with
swearing and carrying on,it is the sound of a person who has decided
to diminish his own existence and while it is perfectly fine for a
while (and I hope others excuse me for my own disgruntled period),it
doesn't achieve anything other than make a racket,give a person a
headache and so on.In short you become a nuisance and that is about it.

On Sep 7, 10:12*am, Andrex flushed:

Show us krazy kelleher's kinky kalendar instead of
føcking whining.

The should send him to Guantanamo.

For horological extremism and religiously terrorising English
grammar!

Kelleher's "rendition" of the "Calendric Dunce" on the Irish fiddle,
is a crime against harmony!

Circumlocution is much too good for him!

He should be hung by the balls as a Foucault pendulum until he
recants!!

"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Sep 7, 10:12 am, "Androcles" .
2011 wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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| It happens that the wider population has become so accustomed to the
| belief

Please help us. Show us krazy kelleher's kinky kalendar instead of
****ing whining.

Case in point,

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No no, you didn't understand what I said.
Quit your wasting your time with your ****ing whining and PRODUCE
THE KINKY KALENDAR, KRAZY KELLEHER!

On Sep 7, 10:51*am, "Androcles" .
2011 wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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On Sep 7, 10:12 am, "Androcles" .

2011 wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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| It happens that the wider population has become so accustomed to the
| belief

Please help us. Show us krazy kelleher's kinky kalendar instead of
****ing whining.

Case in point,

=======================================
No no, you didn't understand what I said.
Quit your wasting your time with your ****ing whining and PRODUCE
THE KINKY KALENDAR, KRAZY KELLEHER!

Let your empirical colleagues remind you why you follow an ideology
which forces 1465 rotations into 4 years or what amounts to the same
thing,the failure to comprehend that the Earth turns once a day and
1461 times in 1461 days.The people of this world have paid dearly for
the subversion of the geometric language of astronomy and remove it
from the hands of those who display the worst traits of human behavior
and especially cowardice and silence.

I represent my astronomical heritage and its people who are
misrepresented by you and your empirical colleagues yet there is no
climbdown involved for genuine empiricists,those who genuinely want to
use this facet of science to work through difficulties where
observations are impossible such as looking beneath the fractured
crust of the Earth.

It is time to write a new story,one where people look with pride and
yes,even the 300 year old detour which tried too hard to make sense of
planetary dynamics using timekeeping averages.The choice is not in the
hands of the dour commentators and those looking for bellylaughs but
on the decisive person and the innovators who live with the fire and
light of human creativity and not the heat of reactions and dissent.

Reasonable people who are familiar with these matters ,whether simple
or complex, cannot ear to remain with an unjust situation for any
great length of time and in this respect I am surprised,although I
have seen the subtle shifts away from the fictional histories needed
to support contemporary ideologies,the real shift has yet to happen
and hopefully it is in the direction of using contemporary imaging
power and techniques to re-open the area that connects planetary
dynamics with terrestrial sciences first and then on to more
speculative arrangements for structural astronomy.

Perhaps people could forgive my poor descriptions had they known how
demanding external circumstances are but I suppose everyone today
knows this in some shape or form.Despite the bad buzz at the moment
there is a sense that investigators may eventually go for the immense
satisfaction which connects terrestrial sciences with astronomy of our
own planet rather than the contrived novelties which now appear under
exoplanets while still valuing the other facets of astronomy such as
photography, constellation hopping or anything that draws the
individual to look into the celestial arena day or night.

In respect to the true condition of men and especially Christians that
they cannot reasonably bear injustice for any great length of
time,there is no better example than St Paul who actively tried to
destroy early Christians yet became its greatest influence -

"I was personally unknown to the churches of Judea that are in Christ.
They only heard the report: “The man who formerly persecuted us is now
preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.” And they praised God
because of me" St Paul

Of courser the word 'preach ' is loaded in today's language as meaning
something of an arbitrary dictator of opinions whereas the intelligent
language of St Paul it revolves around the core Christian life which
makes people more human with a greater range of qualities regardless
of social status.

It may that there are men who once tried to destroy astronomy may end
up being its greatest supporters by promoting what is good rather than
focusing on the mistakes which were made.

"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Sep 7, 10:51 am, "Androcles" .
2011 wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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On Sep 7, 10:12 am, "Androcles" .

2011 wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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| It happens that the wider population has become so accustomed to the
| belief

Please help us. Show us krazy kelleher's kinky kalendar instead of
****ing whining.

Case in point,

=======================================
No no, you didn't understand what I said.
Quit your wasting your time with your ****ing whining and PRODUCE
THE KINKY KALENDAR, KRAZY KELLEHER!

Let your empirical

=======================================
No no, you didn't understand what I said.
Quit your wasting your time with your ****ing whining and PRODUCE
THE KINKY KALENDAR, KRAZY KELLEHER!

"oriel36" wrote in message
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| Reasonable people who are familiar with these matters ,


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No no, you didn't understand what I said. Be seasonable, quit
wasting your time with your ****ing whining and PRODUCE
THE KINKY KALENDAR, KRAZY KELLEHER!