What's going on with the Sun?

What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have
for the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have
for the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

And no mention that recent research indicates there is more going on with
the Sun's influence on the Earth's climate than just "radiative forcing".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/45982

"According to Svensmark, cosmic rays seed low-lying clouds that reflect
some of the Sun's radiation back into space, and the number of cosmic rays
reaching the Earth is dependent on the strength of the solar magnetic field."

"he latest experiment provides evidence for a major component of this theory -
how ionization enhances cloud formation."

One sentence in the first article Sam should read over and over until it
sinks into his aging, change terrified brain:

"Also, the Earth's climate is evidently a highly complicated system,
involving interconnected feedback systems, so it is difficult to
disentangle causes and effects."


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Jim Pennino

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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar activity
could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story emerged after
three groups of researchers presented independent studies at the annual
meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American Astronomical
Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the new findings
really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for the climate
here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about one
tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


Earth's Global Warming is causing the Sun to get hotter by radiating more
heat back to the sun.

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387
Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

I estimate that such estimations will be freely and often adjusted in
accordance with the estimated public impact of said second estimations.

Vince Morgan wrote
"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387
Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

I estimate that such estimations will be freely and often adjusted in
accordance with the estimated public impact of said second estimations.


It's all part of the big conspiracy to befuddle those of us who see science that
tells us things we don't want to hear as part of the plot to confuse us.

Sam Wormley wrote:

What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have
for the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

Whatever it is you can count on it having disasterous results.
Rents will go up 3000% in two years. Only 30 Iowans will survive ...
you and CAA.

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar activity
could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story emerged after
three groups of researchers presented independent studies at the annual
meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American Astronomical
Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the new findings
really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for the climate
here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about one
tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


Keep your fingers crossed Sam because if temps start *falling* the cult is
completely over and you will perhaps have to face reality.

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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for
the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387


Earth's Global Warming is causing the Sun to get hotter by radiating more
heat back to the sun.
Shuuuush, don't give them ideas!

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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What's going on with the Sun?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner – and that solar activity
could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story emerged after
three groups of researchers presented independent studies at the annual
meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American Astronomical
Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the new findings
really that clear-cut and what implications do they have for the climate
here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about one
tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

They are only looking at the current solar cycle. There could be other
cycles unknown because their periods might be thousands of years, and one of
those cycles could be causing heating here on this planet. I don't see how
anyone can say for certain that global warming exists because of man since
truly accurate records have only been kept for the last couple of hundred
years. It's like trying to sample a very small diced sized piece of
something that was originally the size of the sun and saying that the dice's
composition resembles the larger object. Now if you had 100 small samples,
then you might get closer to the larger object's actual composition. The
same as if you had 100 reliable record kept climatology periods of earth's
history, from different time periods of over say several million years, you
then might be able to make predictions about future climate, but basing
findings on one period only (the last 100- 200 years), makes for
inconclusive findings and therefore a weak example of the scientific method.


See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

The_Doubter:
They are only looking at the current solar cycle. There could be other
cycles unknown because their periods might be thousands of years

Such cycles would leave a record in ancient vegetation, ancient ice,
and other markers. Those studying climate change have hundreds of
thousands of years of data to support their conclusions.

and one of
those cycles could be causing heating here on this planet. I don't see how
anyone can say for certain that global warming exists because of man since
truly accurate records have only been kept for the last couple of hundred
years.

Wrong. See above. And see exhibits at http://tinyurl.com/temp-history
for a 600,000 year record of temperature and atmospheric gases. Could
it be a coincidence that unprecedented changes took place
coincidentally with the unprecedented increase in the burning of fossil
fuels that began immediately after World War II and that continues to
this day? Yes. Is it a coincidence? No, because we're not ignorant, and
if there were another cause for global warming we would know it by now.

...over say several million years, you
then might be able to make predictions about future climate, but basing
findings on one period only (the last 100- 200 years), makes for
inconclusive findings and therefore a weak example of the scientific method.

600,000 years of data is sufficient to give a reliable picture of what
is happening.

Science deniers have opposed fluoridation of drinking water,
vaccination against disease, and every other scientific advance that
does not fit your ideology.

No matter. We have answered the question "Is the earth getting warmer?"
and have moved on to "can we do anything about it, should we do
anything about it," that sort of question. History always leaves
bewildered and dejected ideologues in its dust.

Davoud

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