Nasa Makes A Disgusting Political Decision

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:55:17 -0500, jonathan wrote:


This is bull**** of the highest order.

Nasa is concluding the spheres are concretions
based on absurdly limited observations. Their
evidence consists of merely that the spheres
are aligned with the layering so they must
have formed in place. And that the slash
in the spheres 'hints', as they say, it's caused
by the layering in the rocks. Plus the presence
of hematite.

What a load of bull****.
They've assumed the spheres are concretions merely
because they ruled out impact and volcanism. Not
because they proved they're concretions.

If their theory is true, that the spheres formed
in place, then the spheres must be evenly distributed
across the field. But they will find instead that the
spheres will dissipate as they travel out. That
will be the proof of their mistake. That the spheres
are associated with, and emanating from, the craters.

I can't wait to see what nonsense they come up with then.


They have clearly decided any finding of life
will wait for the next mission, so they can guarantee
a next mission. There is no doubt now.

This is a historic miscalculation.

The large Opportunity crater is certain to hold the
most exciting findings of the entire mission.
Making it there will unveil the true motive behind
Nasa now, not discovery, but their own self-serving
asses.

Nasa must now find a way to prevent Opportunity
from making it to the crater, they have to!
Or watch the entire organization become the
source of ridicule and scandal.

They just set the agency back twenty years.


Jonathan

s

Yes, very irresponsible, unlike the serious Usenet scientists that have
concluded, beyond the shadow of a doubt that the tiny balls are from
sponges. Sponges that live at the bottom of the Martian primodial sea.
Their tiny fondril roots driving deeper and deeper in the dry soil to
extract moisture to continue to survive. Truly the weak rationalizations
of the NASA goons represents bullsh*t of the highest order in the face of
such serious scientific observations as those.

However, since mars is really a battle planet, those little balls are actually
lead shot left from the last big martian war in which the warring tribes,
expelled from the hollow planet spent hundreds of generations of making
crude weapons of destruction (such as the lead shot) only to discover
there are no saltpeter and carbon veins to use for gunpowder. Why didn't
NASA know that?

Of course, only the truly enlightened savants know that the little martian
balls are indeed marbles, being used by the disembodied spirits of
venusian gamblers of aeons ago who have been stranded on the planet as
punishment for their many sins.

NASA has no imagination, eh?

O'

"OhBrother" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:55:17 -0500, jonathan wrote:


This is bull**** of the highest order.

Nasa is concluding the spheres are concretions
based on absurdly limited observations. Their
evidence consists of merely that the spheres
are aligned with the layering so they must
have formed in place. And that the slash
in the spheres 'hints', as they say, it's caused
by the layering in the rocks. Plus the presence
of hematite.

What a load of bull****.
They've assumed the spheres are concretions merely
because they ruled out impact and volcanism. Not
because they proved they're concretions.

If their theory is true, that the spheres formed
in place, then the spheres must be evenly distributed
across the field. But they will find instead that the
spheres will dissipate as they travel out. That
will be the proof of their mistake. That the spheres
are associated with, and emanating from, the craters.

I can't wait to see what nonsense they come up with then.


They have clearly decided any finding of life
will wait for the next mission, so they can guarantee
a next mission. There is no doubt now.

This is a historic miscalculation.

The large Opportunity crater is certain to hold the
most exciting findings of the entire mission.
Making it there will unveil the true motive behind
Nasa now, not discovery, but their own self-serving
asses.

Nasa must now find a way to prevent Opportunity
from making it to the crater, they have to!
Or watch the entire organization become the
source of ridicule and scandal.

They just set the agency back twenty years.


Jonathan

s

Yes, very irresponsible, unlike the serious Usenet scientists that have
concluded, beyond the shadow of a doubt that the tiny balls are from
sponges.


So, tell me one thing, how does a hematite concretion weather
uphill? Nasa explained at the conference that the sedimentary
outcrops the uphill and field concretions weathered out of
must have...weathered away. They say they are still looking
for an explanation for the missing sedimentary outcrops.

Please explain to me this one completely fatal flaw?

Either the ...iron...concretions defy gravity, or some
mysterious unseen ....mountain...weathered away
faster then the ...soil...the spheres are lying on.

Can you answer any of these questions, where did
the spheres come from?? How did they get there?

If you can't answer these questions the theory is
nothing more than the speculations of geologists
desperate for a geological explanation.

This is what hematite concretions look like.
http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resource...oncretions.htm


This is what a gemmule looks like
http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plfeb96.htm#gemmules



Sponges that live at the bottom of the Martian primodial sea.


No they don't, they live on outcrops in shallow waters.
And they leave behind lots of sulfates, care for a link?


Their tiny fondril roots driving deeper and deeper in the dry soil to
extract moisture to continue to survive.


Sponges pump water, you don't even know the first thing
about either concretions or sponges yet feel qualified
to comment. You're embarrassing yourself.


Jonathan

s


Truly the weak rationalizations
of the NASA goons represents bullsh*t of the highest order in the face of
such serious scientific observations as those.

However, since mars is really a battle planet, those little balls are actually
lead shot left from the last big martian war in which the warring tribes,
expelled from the hollow planet spent hundreds of generations of making
crude weapons of destruction (such as the lead shot) only to discover
there are no saltpeter and carbon veins to use for gunpowder. Why didn't
NASA know that?

Of course, only the truly enlightened savants know that the little martian
balls are indeed marbles, being used by the disembodied spirits of
venusian gamblers of aeons ago who have been stranded on the planet as
punishment for their many sins.

NASA has no imagination, eh?

O'

"jonathan" wrote in message
...

snip

The actual evidence doesn't agree with your inane little guesswork theory,
so it must be a NASA conspiracy? Gee, who could have seen that one coming?
rolls eyes

In article , OhBrother
wrote:

However, since mars is really a battle planet, those little balls are actually
lead shot left from the last big martian war in which the warring tribes,
expelled from the hollow planet spent hundreds of generations of making
crude weapons of destruction (such as the lead shot) only to discover
there are no saltpeter and carbon veins to use for gunpowder. Why didn't
NASA know that?

They know about them. Richard C. Hoagland spotted the remains of one
of these battlefields strewn with tanks and howitzers at the Pathfinder
landing site, before the evil NASA conspirators squashed the evidence.

By now, of course, you think I'm kidding:

http://www.enterprisemission.com/pasadena2.html

(make sure you go all the way to the end of the page)


-=-=-=-=-

Official AFA-B Bully, Pest, Antagonist, and Gubmint Disinformation Agent

"jonathan" wrote in message
...


Plus the presence
of hematite.

Ummm...it appears the berries may be almost entirely hematite; they took a
spectrum of an area filled with berries, and and adjacent area with no
berries; massive hematite spike in the spectrum from the berries.

(Clue for morons: Sponges ain't made from hematite.)

I will give you credit, if you're for real, you're one of the more hilarious
USEnet science kooks I've seen in a while.

"jonathan" wrote in message
...

This is bull**** of the highest order.

It is fun watching you squirm.

"jonathan" skrev i en meddelelse
...

You're embarrassing yourself.

No, you are.
Can't you take a defeat?

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:06:25 -0500, jonathan wrote:


"OhBrother" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:55:17 -0500, jonathan wrote:


This is bull**** of the highest order.

Nasa is concluding the spheres are concretions
based on absurdly limited observations. Their
evidence consists of merely that the spheres
are aligned with the layering so they must
have formed in place. And that the slash
in the spheres 'hints', as they say, it's caused
by the layering in the rocks. Plus the presence
of hematite.

What a load of bull****.
They've assumed the spheres are concretions merely
because they ruled out impact and volcanism. Not
because they proved they're concretions.

If their theory is true, that the spheres formed
in place, then the spheres must be evenly distributed
across the field. But they will find instead that the
spheres will dissipate as they travel out. That
will be the proof of their mistake. That the spheres
are associated with, and emanating from, the craters.

I can't wait to see what nonsense they come up with then.


They have clearly decided any finding of life
will wait for the next mission, so they can guarantee
a next mission. There is no doubt now.

This is a historic miscalculation.

The large Opportunity crater is certain to hold the
most exciting findings of the entire mission.
Making it there will unveil the true motive behind
Nasa now, not discovery, but their own self-serving
asses.

Nasa must now find a way to prevent Opportunity
from making it to the crater, they have to!
Or watch the entire organization become the
source of ridicule and scandal.

They just set the agency back twenty years.


Jonathan

s

Yes, very irresponsible, unlike the serious Usenet scientists that have
concluded, beyond the shadow of a doubt that the tiny balls are from
sponges.


So, tell me one thing, how does a hematite concretion weather
uphill? Nasa explained at the conference that the sedimentary
outcrops the uphill and field concretions weathered out of
must have...weathered away. They say they are still looking
for an explanation for the missing sedimentary outcrops.

Please explain to me this one completely fatal flaw?

Either the ...iron...concretions defy gravity, or some
mysterious unseen ....mountain...weathered away
faster then the ...soil...the spheres are lying on.

Can you answer any of these questions, where did
the spheres come from?? How did they get there?

If you can't answer these questions the theory is
nothing more than the speculations of geologists
desperate for a geological explanation.

This is what hematite concretions look like.
http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resource...oncretions.htm


This is what a gemmule looks like
http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plfeb96.htm#gemmules



Sponges that live at the bottom of the Martian primodial sea.


No they don't, they live on outcrops in shallow waters.
And they leave behind lots of sulfates, care for a link?


Their tiny fondril roots driving deeper and deeper in the dry soil to
extract moisture to continue to survive.


Sponges pump water, you don't even know the first thing
about either concretions or sponges yet feel qualified
to comment. You're embarrassing yourself.


Jonathan


I'm just repeating a lot of the clap-trap being rolled out here, no names
mentioned... Lots of guesswork going on, and indeed, martian sponges may
actually have roots, or they may have legs with six toe'd feet.

Are you a Martian Sponge expert?

You take yourself too seriously. At this point in time nobody knows and
everyone has opinions about what Martian Geology is about. I daresay NASA
scientists are as likely to make guesses as are the many "Usenet
Scientists" armed with their web browsers, vivid imaginations and attitudes of personal
infallibility.

Drink a glass of water and calm down. We have all of future time to
decide what geological morphology is at work there. It's been sitting up
there for millenia, so another couple years of looking and 'poking isn't
going to make *that much* of a difference.

Maybe you could write a Homeric adventure about Martian Sponges to wile
away the long hours before your hypotheses are validated and you are
deified.

O'


s


Truly the weak rationalizations
of the NASA goons represents bullsh*t of the highest order in the face of
such serious scientific observations as those.

However, since mars is really a battle planet, those little balls are actually
lead shot left from the last big martian war in which the warring tribes,
expelled from the hollow planet spent hundreds of generations of making
crude weapons of destruction (such as the lead shot) only to discover
there are no saltpeter and carbon veins to use for gunpowder. Why didn't
NASA know that?

Of course, only the truly enlightened savants know that the little martian
balls are indeed marbles, being used by the disembodied spirits of
venusian gamblers of aeons ago who have been stranded on the planet as
punishment for their many sins.

NASA has no imagination, eh?

O'

The answer my friend is blowin in the wind.......

March 19, 2004

"Paul Henney" wrote in message :

The answer my friend is blowin in the wind.......

Literally.

You can see it piled hundreds of meters high in the centers of some of
the larger craters. Not the small aeolian salt and sand dunes you see
everywhere water was removed from the surface strata, but the really
big dark crescent shaped dune fields in the really large craters,
presumably made out of the sub-micron fines.

That's the stuff.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net