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On Dec 2, 11:42*am, Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
On 12/02/2010 01:09 PM, oriel36 wrote: There are only two motions involved,intrinsic rotation which causes the day/night cycle with no more than a full 365 rotations in a year,given that daily rotation is independent of the orbital motion of the Earth. Is it? *Given 365 of those daily rotations in a 365-day calendar year, are the ones in January when the orbital motion is fastest really no longer than the ones in July when it's slowest? Oh, my. Much later in this thread, rec.arts.sf.written got added to the crossposting. I had no idea that the distinguished Oriel36 was a participant in the thread earlier. In fact, as the Earth orbits the Sun in approximately 365 1/4 days, the rotations of the Earth proceed at a completely uniform pace. The Earth's orbital revolution around the Sun speeds up and slows down, because when the Earth is closer to the Sun, its loss of potential energy is balanced by an increase of kinetic energy of orbital motion. But the Earth's rotation is unaffected. The stars will move through the night sky so as to return to their previous positions after 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds at any time of the year. The Earth is a big heavy ball of rock, and so making it speed up or slow down would require prodigious amounts of energy, and somewhere to which to transfer the angular momentum involved. Now, though, the Earth's orbital motion _will_ lead (along with the inclination of the Earth's axis to the Ecliptic, in a way too complicated to explain here, but there is an explanation at http://www.quadibloc.com/science/eot.htm on my very own web page if you're interested) to something known as the Equation of Time, which means that you have to correct your sundial by up to 15 minutes if you want to set your watch by it. John Savard |
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Quadibloc wrote:
But the Earth's rotation is unaffected. The stars will move through the night sky so as to return to their previous positions after 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds at any time of the year. The Earth is a big heavy ball of rock, and so making it speed up or slow down would require prodigious amounts of energy, and somewhere to which to transfer the angular momentum involved. And, in the classic example, would make all of Joshua's soldiers fall down and ROLL for a thousand miles... Dave "VENUS MUST BE REORBITED TO BECOME A BORN-AGAIN EARTH" DeLaney -- \/David DeLaney posting from "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeableBLINK http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K. |
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On Dec 10, 5:11*am, (David DeLaney) wrote:
Quadibloc wrote: But the Earth's rotation is unaffected. The stars will move through the night sky so as to return to their previous positions after 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds at any time of the year. The Earth is a big heavy ball of rock, and so making it speed up or slow down would require prodigious amounts of energy, and somewhere to which to transfer the angular momentum involved. And, in the classic example, would make all of Joshua's soldiers fall down and ROLL for a thousand miles... Dave "VENUS MUST BE REORBITED TO BECOME A BORN-AGAIN EARTH" DeLaney Ah, yes, I remember seeing some of the classic posts of the late Alexander Abian. I was surprised that a year or so after his death, some scientists actually did seriously propose moving the Moon as a means to altering Earth's orbit - although, unlike him, they did not feel that it was really necessary to abolish the seasons, leaving the Earth in an eternal springtime, to get rid of the weather and therefore hurricanes and the like. John Savard |
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On 2010-12-10, Anthony Frost wrote:
(David DeLaney) wrote: Dave "VENUS MUST BE REORBITED TO BECOME A BORN-AGAIN EARTH" DeLaney Actually you want to take it out to Mars orbit, park it so that Mars turns into a moon for the relocated Venus, and transfer the surplus CO2. If you use a spare KBO as your tractor you've also got a source of additional water for both. Does the KBO have a PTO? -- "Mrs CJ and I avoid clichés like the plague." |
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On 2010-12-10, Quadibloc wrote:
Ah, yes, I remember seeing some of the classic posts of the late Alexander Abian. I was surprised that a year or so after his death, some scientists actually did seriously propose moving the Moon as a means to altering Earth's orbit - although, unlike him, they did not feel that it was really necessary to abolish the seasons, leaving the Earth in an eternal springtime, to get rid of the weather and therefore hurricanes and the like. LCROSS ... his sleepers turned over the Q♦. -- The three-martini lunch is the epitome of American efficiency. Where else can you get an earful, a bellyful and a snootful at the same time? [Gerald Ford, 1978] |
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Anthony Frost wrote: In message (David DeLaney) wrote: Dave "VENUS MUST BE REORBITED TO BECOME A BORN-AGAIN EARTH" DeLaney Actually you want to take it out to Mars orbit, park it so that Mars turns into a moon for the relocated Venus, and transfer the surplus CO2. If you use a spare KBO as your tractor you've also got a source of additional water for both. Propulsion units to move and steer a suitably sized KBO are left as an exercise for the reader. Anthony Sounds like a job for "Sir Isaac Newton" and friends, from _Between Planets_. -- The Chinese pretend their goods are good and we pretend our money is good, or is it the reverse? |
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