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Old October 18th 10, 08:04 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Oct 13, 3:00*am, "Painius" wrote:
NEWS RELEASE FROM THE PLANETARY SCIENCE INSTITUTE

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FROM:
Alan Fischer
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520-622-6300


Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface

A new discovery of hydrothermally altered carbonate-bearing
rocks on Mars points toward habitable environments deep in
the Martian crust, a Planetary Science Institute researcher
said.

A deposit of carbonate rocks that once existed 6 km below the
surface of Mars was uplifted and exposed by an ancient meteor
impact, said Joseph Michalski, research scientist with PSI. The
carbonate minerals exist along with hydrated silicate minerals
of a likely hydrothermal origin.

Using data returned from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO)
spacecraft, researchers have spotted this unique mineralogy
within the central peak of a crater to the southwest of a giant
Martian volcano named Syrtis Major. With infrared spectra from
the Compact Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars (CRISM),
planetary geologists detected the hydrothermal minerals from
their spectroscopic fingerprints.

Visible images from the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment
(HiRISE) camera aboard MRO show that the carbonates and hydrated
silicate minerals occur within deformed bedrock that was exhumed by
an ancient meteor impact that poked through the volcanic upper
crust of Mars.

"Carbonate rocks have long been a Holy Grail of Mars exploration
for several reasons," Michalski said. "One reason is because
carbonates form with the ocean and within lakes on Earth, so the
same could be true for ancient Mars - such deposits could indicate
past seas that were once present on Mars. Another reason is because
we suspect that the ancient Martian atmosphere was probably denser
and CO2-rich, but today the atmosphere is quite thin so we infer
that the CO2 must have gone into carbonate rocks somewhere on Mars."

Michalski and co-author Paul B. Niles of NASA Johnson Space Center
recently published the results in a paper titled "Deep crustal
carbonate rocks exposed by meteor impact on Mars" in Nature Geoscience.

While this is not the first detection of carbonates on Mars, Michalski
said, "This detection is significant because it shows other carbonates
detected by previous workers, which were found in a fairly limited
spatial extent, were not a localized phenomenon. Carbonates may have
formed over a very large region of ancient Mars, but been covered up
by volcanic flows later in the history of the planet. A very exciting
history of water on Mars may be simply covered up by younger lava!"

The discovery also has implications for the habitability of the
Martian crust.

"The presence of carbonates along with hydrothermal silicate minerals
indicates that a hydrothermal system existed in the presence of CO2
deep in the Martian crust," Michalski says. "Such an environment is
chemically similar to the type of hydrothermal systems that exist
within the ocean floor of Earth, which are capable of sustaining
vast communities of organisms that have never seen the light of day.

"The cold, dry surface of Mars is a tough place to survive, even
for microbes. If we can identify places where habitable environments
once existed at depth, protected from the harsh surface environment,
it is a big step forward for astrobiological exploration of the red
planet."

NASA's Mars Data Analysis Program provided funding for the research
project.

CONTACT:
Joseph Michalski
Research Scientist
+33 6 07 32 91 82


PSI INFORMATION:
Mark V. Sykes
Director
520-622-6300


PSI HOMEPAGE:http://www.psi.edu

Habitable Martian Thank You to Ron Baalke of sci.space.news !

Happy days *and*...
* *Starry, starry nights !

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

PS - "We are all here for a spell; get all the
* * * * good laughs you can." * * Will Rogers

PPS -http://astro.painellsworth.net!
* * * * * *http://www.secretsgolden.com!
* * * * * * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth!


Painius I posted my Mars red clam theory many times About 250 feet
down are Mars red clams. Bring your own butter. TreBert
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Old October 18th 10, 08:21 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface

On Oct 18, 12:04*pm, bert wrote:
On Oct 13, 3:00*am, "Painius" wrote:



NEWS RELEASE FROM THE PLANETARY SCIENCE INSTITUTE


SENT:
Oct. 11, 2010


FROM:
Alan Fischer
Public Information Office
Planetary Science Institute
520-885-5648
520-622-6300


Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface


A new discovery of hydrothermally altered carbonate-bearing
rocks on Mars points toward habitable environments deep in
the Martian crust, a Planetary Science Institute researcher
said.


A deposit of carbonate rocks that once existed 6 km below the
surface of Mars was uplifted and exposed by an ancient meteor
impact, said Joseph Michalski, research scientist with PSI. The
carbonate minerals exist along with hydrated silicate minerals
of a likely hydrothermal origin.


Using data returned from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO)
spacecraft, researchers have spotted this unique mineralogy
within the central peak of a crater to the southwest of a giant
Martian volcano named Syrtis Major. With infrared spectra from
the Compact Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars (CRISM),
planetary geologists detected the hydrothermal minerals from
their spectroscopic fingerprints.


Visible images from the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment
(HiRISE) camera aboard MRO show that the carbonates and hydrated
silicate minerals occur within deformed bedrock that was exhumed by
an ancient meteor impact that poked through the volcanic upper
crust of Mars.


"Carbonate rocks have long been a Holy Grail of Mars exploration
for several reasons," Michalski said. "One reason is because
carbonates form with the ocean and within lakes on Earth, so the
same could be true for ancient Mars - such deposits could indicate
past seas that were once present on Mars. Another reason is because
we suspect that the ancient Martian atmosphere was probably denser
and CO2-rich, but today the atmosphere is quite thin so we infer
that the CO2 must have gone into carbonate rocks somewhere on Mars."


Michalski and co-author Paul B. Niles of NASA Johnson Space Center
recently published the results in a paper titled "Deep crustal
carbonate rocks exposed by meteor impact on Mars" in Nature Geoscience.


While this is not the first detection of carbonates on Mars, Michalski
said, "This detection is significant because it shows other carbonates
detected by previous workers, which were found in a fairly limited
spatial extent, were not a localized phenomenon. Carbonates may have
formed over a very large region of ancient Mars, but been covered up
by volcanic flows later in the history of the planet. A very exciting
history of water on Mars may be simply covered up by younger lava!"


The discovery also has implications for the habitability of the
Martian crust.


"The presence of carbonates along with hydrothermal silicate minerals
indicates that a hydrothermal system existed in the presence of CO2
deep in the Martian crust," Michalski says. "Such an environment is
chemically similar to the type of hydrothermal systems that exist
within the ocean floor of Earth, which are capable of sustaining
vast communities of organisms that have never seen the light of day.


"The cold, dry surface of Mars is a tough place to survive, even
for microbes. If we can identify places where habitable environments
once existed at depth, protected from the harsh surface environment,
it is a big step forward for astrobiological exploration of the red
planet."


NASA's Mars Data Analysis Program provided funding for the research
project.


CONTACT:
Joseph Michalski
Research Scientist
+33 6 07 32 91 82


PSI INFORMATION:
Mark V. Sykes
Director
520-622-6300


PSI HOMEPAGE:http://www.psi.edu


Habitable Martian Thank You to Ron Baalke of sci.space.news !


Happy days *and*...
* *Starry, starry nights !


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth


PS - "We are all here for a spell; get all the
* * * * good laughs you can." * * Will Rogers


PPS -http://astro.painellsworth.net!
* * * * * *http://www.secretsgolden.com!
* * * * * * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth!


Painius *I posted my Mars red clam theory many times About 250 feet
down are Mars red clams. Bring your own butter. TreBert


Our resident mainstream parrot "Painius" doesn't really care what you
or anyone else has to say.

Going even a few meters into our lunar basalt crust would also be as
doable as any dry-ice caves on Mars. At least while on the moon they
could stay in touch by satellite cellphones and otherwise get beer and
pizza deliveries at only $100,000/kg, whereas Mars would take over a
year per delivery and cost us more then a million bucks/kg.

If my LSE-CM/ISS were up and running, the cost of getting that beer
and pizza to our moon would eventually drop to as little as $1000/kg.

However, our semi-hollow moon could also be usable as is, whereas Mars
could be somewhat limited on whatever existing hollow spots, as well
as Mars being terribly energy deficient.

~ BG
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Old October 28th 10, 12:20 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface

My dearest Bert,

"bert" wrote in message...
...
On Oct 13, 3:00 am, "Painius" wrote:

NEWS RELEASE FROM THE PLANETARY SCIENCE INSTITUTE

SENT:
Oct. 11, 2010

FROM:
Alan Fischer
Public Information Office
Planetary Science Institute
520-885-5648
520-622-6300


Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface

A new discovery of hydrothermally altered carbonate-bearing
rocks on Mars points toward habitable environments deep in
the Martian crust, a Planetary Science Institute researcher
said.


Painius I posted my Mars red clam theory many times About 250 feet
down are Mars red clams. Bring your own butter. TreBert

P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A

Gives new meaning to "BYOB", eh Bert? G

Happy days *and*...
Starry, starry nights !

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

PS - "To the world you may be one person, but to one
person you may be the world." Bill Wilson

PPS - http://astro.painellsworth.net !
http://www.secretsgolden.com !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth !


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Old October 28th 10, 01:22 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface

On Oct 28, 7:20*am, "Painius" wrote:
My dearest Bert,

"bert" wrote in message...

...
On Oct 13, 3:00 am, "Painius" wrote:







NEWS RELEASE FROM THE PLANETARY SCIENCE INSTITUTE


SENT:
Oct. 11, 2010


FROM:
Alan Fischer
Public Information Office
Planetary Science Institute
520-885-5648
520-622-6300


Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface


A new discovery of hydrothermally altered carbonate-bearing
rocks on Mars points toward habitable environments deep in
the Martian crust, a Planetary Science Institute researcher
said.


Painius *I posted my Mars red clam theory many times About 250 feet
down are Mars red clams. Bring your own butter. TreBert

* P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A

Gives new meaning to "BYOB", eh Bert? G

Happy days *and*...
* *Starry, starry nights !

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

PS - "To the world you may be one person, but to one
* * * * person you may be the world." * * Bill Wilson

PPS -http://astro.painellsworth.net!
* * * * * *http://www.secretsgolden.com!
* * * * * * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Painius at 250 feet down the pressure creates heat and Mars has a very
hot core. It is molten rock and iron,and iron sulfide. Reality is Mars
core is more like Earth's than our Moon core. I however do not think
Mars core has any of the heavier metal nickel. I have given objects
cores lots and lots of thinking. Best to keep in mind star cores gave
life to the universe. We are star stuff(Sagan) Painius always keep
in mind the Sun's core is only 7% of its volume,but is 50% of its
mass. TreBert
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Old October 28th 10, 08:02 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface

On Oct 28, 5:22*am, bert wrote:
On Oct 28, 7:20*am, "Painius" wrote:



My dearest Bert,


"bert" wrote in message...


....
On Oct 13, 3:00 am, "Painius" wrote:


NEWS RELEASE FROM THE PLANETARY SCIENCE INSTITUTE


SENT:
Oct. 11, 2010


FROM:
Alan Fischer
Public Information Office
Planetary Science Institute
520-885-5648
520-622-6300


Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface


A new discovery of hydrothermally altered carbonate-bearing
rocks on Mars points toward habitable environments deep in
the Martian crust, a Planetary Science Institute researcher
said.


Painius *I posted my Mars red clam theory many times About 250 feet
down are Mars red clams. Bring your own butter. TreBert


* P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A


Gives new meaning to "BYOB", eh Bert? G


Happy days *and*...
* *Starry, starry nights !


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth


PS - "To the world you may be one person, but to one
* * * * person you may be the world." * * Bill Wilson


PPS -http://astro.painellsworth.net!
* * * * * *http://www.secretsgolden.com!
* * * * * * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth!-Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Painius at 250 feet down the pressure creates heat and Mars has a very
hot core. It is molten rock and iron,and iron sulfide. Reality is Mars
core is more like Earth's than our Moon core. I however do not think
Mars core has any of the heavier metal nickel. *I have given objects
cores lots and lots of thinking. Best to keep in mind star cores gave
life to the universe. We are star stuff(Sagan) * Painius always keep
in mind the Sun's core is only 7% of its volume,but is 50% of its
mass. TreBert


The innards of Mars isn't quite that hot, at least not since having
lost it's big moon.

For all we know, Mars as a nearly spent planet, is billions of years
older than Earth.

Otherwise, spent star stuff of sufficient metallic elements is what
created planets, as otherwise planets would only be gas giants with
hardly if any solid cores.

~ BG
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Old November 1st 10, 04:59 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Habitable Martian Environments Could be Deep Beneath Planet's Surface

My dearest Brad,

"Brad Guth" wrote in message...
...

The innards of Mars isn't quite that hot, at least not since having
lost it's big moon. . . .


~ BG


What do you mean by "lost its big moon"?

Happy days *and*...
Starry, starry nights !

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

PS - "To live life at risk you've got to jump off cliffs all
the time and build your wings on the way down."
Ray Bradbury


PPS - http://astro.painellsworth.net !
http://www.secretsgolden.com !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth !


 




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