The First Aether Conference: Vertical Flow

"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value.
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

On Jun 25, 12:26*pm, Double-A wrote:
"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value.
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable" *- Albert Einstein


http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_5_4_1.html

On Jun 25, 3:26*pm, Double-A wrote:
"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value.
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable" *- Albert Einstein

AA Will post my ideas on space ether energy.(in the morning) It
hopefully be discused with open minds. O ya I will be called an idiot
by the low witers TreBert

On Jun 25, 6:46*pm, bert wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:26*pm, Double-A wrote:





"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value.
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable" *- Albert Einstein

AA Will post my ideas on space ether energy.(in the morning) *It
hopefully be discused with open minds. *O ya I will be called an idiot
by the low witers * TreBert- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

U turn flow fits well with my 5th field force. "Spacetime flowing
backwards" This could cause electron & electron collision. That
creates 'gamma photon energy burst" Feynman told us this when he
worked with Wheeler at Prinston. Tricky stuff when its one electron
hitting itself. Hmmm reality is no real need for "anti-matter" if
thats the case. Ooops I could make a theory out of this thinking so
best I end here TreBert

"Double-A" wrote in message...
...
On Jul 5, 6:03 am, bert wrote:
On Jun 25, 6:46 pm, bert wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:26 pm, Double-A wrote:

"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value.
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

AA Will post my ideas on space ether energy.(in the morning) It
hopefully be discused with open minds. O ya I will be called an idiot
by the low witers TreBert

U turn flow fits well with my 5th field force. "Spacetime flowing
backwards" This could cause electron & electron collision. That
creates 'gamma photon energy burst" Feynman told us this when he
worked with Wheeler at Prinston. Tricky stuff when its one electron
hitting itself. Hmmm reality is no real need for "anti-matter" if
thats the case. Ooops I could make a theory out of this thinking so
best I end here TreBert

Interesting. As the SPED flows into the Earth, could there be sort of
a bow shock? That could become evident by a 5th force repulsion!
Observations have been made, but no 5th force has been detected yet.

Double-A

P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A

From what i understand of the SPED, it is an _energy_ that
constantly flows into matter, with each atom performing like
a tiny flowsink. Aren't bow shocks a flowing _matter_ type
phenomenon? Help me out here, because i cannot picture in
my mind how any form of energy (other than the condensed
form, matter) could form a bow shock.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: "Half our life is spent trying to find something to do
with the time we have rushed through life trying to save."
Will Rogers

P.P.S.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth

On Jul 5, 4:18*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Jul 5, 6:03*am, bert wrote:





On Jun 25, 6:46*pm, bert wrote:

On Jun 25, 3:26*pm, Double-A wrote:

"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value..
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable" *- Albert Einstein

AA Will post my ideas on space ether energy.(in the morning) *It
hopefully be discused with open minds. *O ya I will be called an idiot
by the low witers * TreBert- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

U turn flow fits well with my 5th field force. "Spacetime flowing
backwards" This could cause electron & electron collision. That
creates 'gamma photon energy burst" Feynman told us this when he
worked with Wheeler at Prinston. *Tricky stuff when its one electron
hitting itself. *Hmmm reality is no real need for "anti-matter" if
thats the case. Ooops I could make a theory out of this thinking so
best I end here * *TreBert

Interesting. *As the SPED flows into the Earth, could there be sort of
a bow shock? *That could become evident by a 5th force repulsion!
Observations have been made, but no 5th force has been detected yet.

Double-A- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

AA Nice going now you see where my 5th force theory is coming out of
(Aether) TreBert

On Jul 7, 1:56*am, "Painius" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message...

...
On Jul 5, 6:03 am, bert wrote:





On Jun 25, 6:46 pm, bert wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:26 pm, Double-A wrote:

"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value..
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

AA Will post my ideas on space ether energy.(in the morning) It
hopefully be discused with open minds. O ya I will be called an idiot
by the low witers TreBert

U turn flow fits well with my 5th field force. "Spacetime flowing
backwards" This could cause electron & electron collision. That
creates 'gamma photon energy burst" Feynman told us this when he
worked with Wheeler at Prinston. Tricky stuff when its one electron
hitting itself. Hmmm reality is no real need for "anti-matter" if
thats the case. Ooops I could make a theory out of this thinking so
best I end here TreBert

Interesting. *As the SPED flows into the Earth, could there be sort of
a bow shock? *That could become evident by a 5th force repulsion!
Observations have been made, but no 5th force has been detected yet.

Double-A

* P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A * P I T A

From what i understand of the SPED, it is an _energy_ that
constantly flows into matter, with each atom performing like
a tiny flowsink. *Aren't bow shocks a flowing _matter_ type
phenomenon? *Help me out here, because i cannot picture in
my mind how any form of energy (other than the condensed
form, matter) could form a bow shock.

happy days and...
* *starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: *"Half our life is spent trying to find something to do
* * * * *with the time we have rushed through life trying to save."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Will Rogers

P.P.S.: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth- Hide quoted text -

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Painius oc should be jumping in here. His late friend would like
discussing 5th field force O ya TreBert

"bert" wrote in message...
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On Jul 7, 1:56 am, "Painius" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message...
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On Jul 5, 6:03 am, bert wrote:
On Jun 25, 6:46 pm, bert wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:26 pm, Double-A wrote:

"A two-day Conference on the Aether was held in Pleasant Hill,
California, on July 19-20, 1997. Chaired, organized, and hosted by
Norman Silliman, this conference was a first in the developing
struggle to improve our understanding of nature. The 12 attendees
were
mainly from California, Washington, and Utah. Three of the attendees
had partial explanations of the aether that will require carefully-
defined experiments to prove or disprove.

Various concepts of the aether were discussed. Most of the attendees
could agree that there definitely is an aether and it acts like a
gaseous or fluid media but is composed of much finer particles than
those that make up matter. It was generally accepted that the aether
is a primary factor in magnetism, electrostatics, and gravity."

"VERTICAL AETHER FLOW?

Some of the attendees at this Aether Conference suggest that the
aether flows into massive objects, such as the earth or the sun. It
was suggested that this inward flowing of the aether toward a
massive
planet or star could be responsible for gravity (the shadow effect)
and for the apparent bending of light waves (being distorted by this
inward flow of aetheric particles). It was also suggested that the
inward flowing of the aether could be a fundamental problem in
measuring the speed of light using a horizontally arranged
experiment
(such as was done by Michelson and Morley). Therefore, it was a
consensus of the attendees that the speed of light should be
measured
vertically and not horizontally. See Suggested Experiments."

"Suggested Experiments (by attendees):

It is hypothesized that the aether flows into the sun and bends
light,
and the bending of light is not due to warped space as Einstein
suggested. Henry Lindner, a medical doctor, suggests a method of
differentiating between the two effects in an experiment. Using a
valley with 2 km. distance between hills, aether flow should bend
the
light into the valley. The theory suggests that there should be
about
seven centimeters change over two kilometers. Use water in hose to
establish point A and point B at the same geographic level. The
water
in the hose will rise to the same level. Of course, it will require
a
long hose. The curvature of earth in 2 km. is about 2 cm. and should
be taken into account. [Seven centimeters seems to be a large value.
Can anyone cite Lindner's calculations? Ed.]

Attendees suggested that the Michelson-Morley experiment be
conducted
in the vertical plane. Many of the attendees suggest that the aether
flows into massive objects. An alternative to the Michelson-Morley
experiment would be to use the method designed by Stefan Marinov.
Marinov uses two precision machined disks with holes near the outer
diameter. Light is directed through the holes in two disks mounted
on
opposite ends of a two meter shaft and spun at a high rotational
speed. Light through one hole would be slightly occluded by the
motion
of the opposite disk during the time that the light travels two
meters."

Double-A

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether
is
unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

AA Will post my ideas on space ether energy.(in the morning) It
hopefully be discused with open minds. O ya I will be called an idiot
by the low witers TreBert

U turn flow fits well with my 5th field force. "Spacetime flowing
backwards" This could cause electron & electron collision. That
creates 'gamma photon energy burst" Feynman told us this when he
worked with Wheeler at Prinston. Tricky stuff when its one electron
hitting itself. Hmmm reality is no real need for "anti-matter" if
thats the case. Ooops I could make a theory out of this thinking so
best I end here TreBert

Interesting. As the SPED flows into the Earth, could there be sort of
a bow shock? That could become evident by a 5th force repulsion!
Observations have been made, but no 5th force has been detected yet.

Double-A

P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A

From what i understand of the SPED, it is an _energy_ that
constantly flows into matter, with each atom performing like
a tiny flowsink. Aren't bow shocks a flowing _matter_ type
phenomenon? Help me out here, because i cannot picture in
my mind how any form of energy (other than the condensed
form, matter) could form a bow shock.

Painius oc should be jumping in here. His late friend would like
discussing 5th field force O ya TreBert

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Yeah, i wonder what happened to the old coot? Been a missin'
him !

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

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"Painius" wrote in message
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Yeah, i wonder what happened to the old coot? Been a missin'
him !


Try aiming a bit better.



Fact is that some people, especially those who are
used to the 'kinder and gentler' newsgroups, just can't
handle my rough and tumble style of debate.

So they run away.

Some only write to me by proxy.

Either way, *I* will always be here.


Have a nice day! :-)




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Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.