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In article , BURT writes: But how do you get everything to move in the same direction. Imagine a contracting gas cloud. If it is rotating _on average_ in any direction, as the cloud contracts any atoms going the "wrong way" are forced into the preferred direction of rotation. In other words, angular momentum is conserved. Also why is there a plane? Relative to the plane, there are as many atoms going "up" as "down," and when they collide at the plane, the vertical motion is cancelled out. This is explained in much better detail in textbooks, which have diagrams and (in advanced books) equations. I had a brief search for a good popular source on the web but didn't find one. By the way, there are many observed examples of protostellar disks, and the same basic physical process of disk formation is also important in spiral galaxies. -- Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 Cambridge, MA 02138 USA (Please email your reply if you want to be sure I see it; include a valid Reply-To address to receive an acknowledgement. Commercial email may be sent to your ISP.) |
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On Apr 16, 2:18*pm, (Steve Willner) wrote:
[newsgroups snipped] In article , *BURT writes: But how do you get everything to move in the same direction. Imagine a contracting gas cloud. *If it is rotating _on average_ in any direction, as the cloud contracts any atoms going the "wrong way" are forced into the preferred direction of rotation. *In other words, angular momentum is conserved. Also why is there a plane? Relative to the plane, there are as many atoms going "up" as "down," and when they collide at the plane, the vertical motion is cancelled out. In how many billions years does this vertical colliding process take place, until only a tight disk of the extremely condensed plane of mostly hydrogen is formed? ~ BG |
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BradGuth writes: In how many billions years does this vertical colliding process take place, until only a tight disk of the extremely condensed plane of mostly hydrogen is formed? Protostellar disks form in a few hundred thousand years and dissipate in a few million years. For galactic disks, formation time scales are a few hundred million years. No "billions" at all. -- Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 Cambridge, MA 02138 USA (Please email your reply if you want to be sure I see it; include a valid Reply-To address to receive an acknowledgement. Commercial email may be sent to your ISP.) |
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On Apr 20, 12:15*pm, (Steve Willner) wrote:
In article , *BradGuth writes: In how many billions years does this vertical colliding process take place, until only a tight disk of the extremely condensed plane of mostly hydrogen is formed? Protostellar disks form in a few hundred thousand years and dissipate in a few million years. *For galactic disks, formation time scales are a few hundred million years. *No "billions" at all. -- Steve Willner * * * * * *Phone 617-495-7123 * * Cambridge, MA 02138 USA * * * * * * * * (Please email your reply if you want to be sure I see it; include a valid Reply-To address to receive an acknowledgement. *Commercial email may be sent to your ISP.) Many thanks for that straight forward information. ~ BG |
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